Sherlock

That is indeed a steep price. You should consider using external SSDs via USB3 to compensate for small built in drives. Saves you lots of money. Secondly don't buy it now because the next MacBook Pro is looming around the corner (Sep. 10th). That one wont be cheaper, but this one just might.

Then for development purposes only a the smalles Mac suffices. Connect to it through LAN and have it sign your Apps, finished.  You don't have to have an expensive MacBook just to develop Apps.

Finally I don't expect more competence from the "Geniuses" or the common sales folk at the Apple store than from any other sakes guy at an electronics outlet like MediMarkt and such.

3 minutes ago, Kyle_Katarn31 said:

but for the time being we still have many users running XP

Do you have any numbers on that? Absolute or rough percentages.

The user folder from the Mac environment can be shared into the Windows user folder. Allowing for a more...seamless integration. This also means, that the windows  user folder is not part of the VMs disk, it is outside of the VM.

Regarding the "compile twice": On the first compile of a project I will always get:

Quote

MSBUILD : error E2597: E2597 ld: file not found: L
c:\program files (x86)\embarcadero\studio\20.0\Bin\CodeGear.Delphi.Targets(402,5): error F2588: F2588 Linker-Fehlercode: 1 ($00000001)

The second then works just fine. The cycle then repeats.

It is possible to get around this issue by using folders local to the VM, but I prefer this, as it keeps the changes to the VM file at a minimum, which is good for backing up and creating memory saving snapshots.

In my opinion dumming down the security should not be the solution. I would rather say adios to those XP users, and the same to Win7 folks. It makes development so much easier, when you don't have to deal with outdated, discontinued and unsupported OSes.

Got the same setup, only with an older model (2015). No problems here. If you plan on developing for iOS, keep in mind, that you may keep your projects in the "Documents" folder from the Mac-share, but you'll have to compile twice. Every other compile will fail. I have no idea why, and no idea why it works the second time around. I'm just glad it does 😉

Have you tried reinstalling IDEFixPack after applying the patch?

Been using Delphi in a Parallels VM on a Mac for four years now. Now problems, no worries, no special settings. Only iOS compiles need to be done twice, because the compiler or the linker or whatever only likes the shared folders every other turn...

I wonder what folks will do that just paid money for their brand new Delphi and could not get it installed for almost a month. If that happened to me I would have wanted my money back, pronto. The good folks at Idera should consider renaming the thing to "NotGettinIt"

O'Neill

All of those informations can be set manually with a multitude of tools, they are nothing to rely on.

3 minutes ago, Bill Meyer said:

When you are dealing with a large legacy project, however, untangling years of ... interesting ... coding takes time.

I totally understand. That saying should always be delivered tongue in cheek.

There is a german saying: Kaum macht man es richtig,funktioniert es. It roughly translates to: As soon as you do it right, it works. It is all too true for most everything 😄

If it's too slow for you, buy a faster computer™

Off the top of my head: One is an integer the other is a floating point.

• Compiler optimization
• Bug fixing
• Support for current versions of the supported OSes

Finished. That is what I expect from 10.3.3. Looks like some of it is being done. So: Bravo. I really don't need new language features, but that's just old unflexible me. Then there's the trend to issue a major release early in a year and getting it fixed by the end of it, only to start the cycle again a couple of weeks later. That is tedious.

3 hours ago, David Heffernan said:

Yeah, seems pointless. Use YAML if you want more readable files. 

I second that!

Call tree sounds about right. But keep recursiveness in mind.

I have an FMX project that is mainly reading csv files and turns the numerical data into plots (more detailed: measurements over time, with 4 measurements per second). It has been performing "so so" for iOS which caused me to not leave beta phase. Windows performance is way better. That was 10.3.1.

Now in 10.3.2 I see almost the same performance in the iOS simulator (still iOS 10.3 only, thought that was being fixed in this release), but on the real device (5th gen iPad) it is way, way slower. I will of course enter lots of stopwatches to check what exactly is costing time, but before that I just wanted to check if anyone else has noticed this as well.

Cheers

Mostly for myself, sometimes for the Ant men. This time as a moderate moderator.

2 hours ago, PeterPanettone said:

Has anyone ever used Microsoft Application Virtualization for running the Delphi IDE in a kind of virtualized sandbox on a Windows 10 x64 desktop environment?

Yours

@PeterPanettone Judging by the other answers and to get back to topic: No.

So...how is the web installer supposed to work without GetIt? Is it consensus, that the web installer is an unprofessional tool only to be used by hobbyists? I was quite content with the web installers quick installation compared to the ISO installer in the past. Obviously I traded speed for...professionalism? What are the drawbacks of the web installer (apart from the current GetIT "beyond-design-basis event")?

I too don't use the registry to store anything. I don't want to be part of the problem that created registry cleaners. And I don't trust uninstallers (or me) to completely free the registry from any thing I might have entered. It is easier to simply delete the %localappdata%\myProduct, for the user too, should I forget that 😉

The registry has become the same cluttered monster the win.ini was.

@Ian Branch As long as you have one user, I concur. After that you are on your own in a deep sea of...ummm... smelly...ummm... residue?

UI guidelines are there to get people used to the best common denominator. Any application that deviates might get some cheers by some users, but also some jeers by others. And it will cause the developer head aches to just keep up the "good" UI after adding new features, fixing bugs and so forth. And that is not counting what happens when the OS changes its own UI paradigm.

So leave the eye candy to the likes of Kai Krause and just make good applications, that benefit the users in a way that will make them overlook the lack of luster.

Nah... that's a bit over the top. And we could not say "Ah, there's the guy that cried Wolf to often" when we see you 😛

@C2H After reading this thread, you did create a snapshot or something comparable before starting the update, right? Just roll back, continue working and try again later.