Where is Formatter?

[CoeurdeLeon 9]

Where is the Code Formatter in Delphi 13

Here is the Delphi 12 Tools/options menu

Here is Delphi 13 Tools/options menu

Where is the Formatter?  How can I configure it?  What key strokes invoke it?  Where is it hidden?

[PeterBelow 265]

It has been removed together with the other stuff depending on old .NET code (refactoring). There has been a lengthy thread on the german forum mentioning some alternatives. It has also been discussed ad nauseum here.

Edited November 11 by PeterBelow

[dummzeuch 1763]

It's really interesting how many people have missed that change. It has been "communicated" by Embarcadero ("played down" would probably be a better way to put it) and also been all over the blogosphere and the forums.

[CoeurdeLeon 9]

I subscribe to Rad Studio Architect.  Modelling was the extra feature you received with Architect.  How can Embarcadero justify the huge cost for Architect when modelling has been removed?

[Anders Melander 2203]

34 minutes ago, CoeurdeLeon said:

How can Embarcadero justify the huge cost for Architect

Well, you get an Ext JS license with it...

LOL 🤦‍♂️

[dummzeuch 1763]

47 minutes ago, CoeurdeLeon said:

I subscribe to Rad Studio Architect.  Modelling was the extra feature you received with Architect.  How can Embarcadero justify the huge cost for Architect when modelling has been removed?

They obviously can, and think they'll get away with it.

[Lajos Juhász 336]

It must have been a huge surprise to them that the codebase they purchased is no longer usable without significant problems. Therefore, Microsoft is to blame for not adequately advising Embarcadero to modernize their code.

 

They have communicated for years that the technology that is used to achieve Modelling is old and deprecated, unfortunately they have chose to not reimplement it Delphi or C++.

[Rollo62 639]

14 hours ago, CoeurdeLeon said:

I subscribe to Rad Studio Architect.  Modelling was the extra feature you received with Architect.  How can Embarcadero justify the huge cost for Architect when modelling has been removed?

Well, your support for Delphi helped a lot to push Delphi back to 8th position in the TIOBE Index 
https://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/

 

TIOBE is, of course, a questionable index, but it's always nice to see such an increase, which was achieved through incredibly expensive marketing measures  
Thanks for helping with that too.
 

[Anders Melander 2203]

5 hours ago, Lajos Juhász said:

Therefore, Microsoft is to blame for not adequately advising Embarcadero to modernize their code.

Sarcasm, right?

J# was put in the grave almost 20 years ago.

[Lajos Juhász 336]

10 minutes ago, Anders Melander said:

Sarcasm, right?

J# was put in the grave almost 20 years ago.

Of course. On the other hand we cannot blame Embarcadero for everything they are doing wrong (being the last language to introduce new things, IDE is falling apart, 64 bit support is a joke).

[Anders Melander 2203]

2 hours ago, Lajos Juhász said:

the last language to introduce new things, IDE is falling apart, 64 bit support is a joke

While there are plenty of things in Delphi that I'm unsatisfied with, those are not it; Language (pretty much) has what I need*, IDE (usually) works fine, and I've been doing 64-bit (largely) without problems for a long time 🤷‍♂️.

 

*) I really could use some SIMD intrinsics but that's about it.

[Lajos Juhász 336]

12 hours ago, Anders Melander said:

IDE (usually) works fine, and I've been doing 64-bit (largely) without problems for a long time 🤷‍♂️.

 

This is starting to be off topic. In my case IDE the 32-bit IDE can have Access Violation during compilation. It is a larger project group working on a package that contains both runtime and design time packages can cause even the IDE to disappear. 

 

The 64-bit IDE in Delphi 12 failed to compile a valid code. I was able to rewrite it to compile but have no time to continue testing. I did some basic testing with Delphi 13 (I have no time now to evaluate further it) it failed while I was in the kitchen having breakfast.