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Note that even if every update subscriber gets access to the beta, they are still under NDA and may not discuss testing 10.4 Denali in public.

 

 

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Delphi

  • Language Server Protocol for Delphi (!)
  • Language Enhancements: Managed Records (after 1.5 years of waiting...)
  • Unified memory management across all platforms (!)

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2 hours ago, Lars Fosdal said:

they are still under NDA and may not discuss testing 10.4 Denali in public.

Wasn't there also a clause that you can't even talk about it for 2 years after?

 

Pretty sure its still legal to say; I won't be on it! 🙂

 

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I guess it to a certain degree reduces rumors and opinions on thin foundations - but, yeah... it is an antiquated approach for a public beta.

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17 minutes ago, David Heffernan said:

If you want your beta testers to find bugs, don't you want lots of testers? 

So, we conclude:

They limit the number of testers => Don't want them to find bugs?

 

On the other hand: Many bug reports are that bad that they are not worth the time you spend reading them.

(But in my experience the majority of bug reports are good.)

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I didn't read that as a conclusion, but as defining a goal for testing.
More diverse testing = better testing.

Naturally, the quality of the bug reports is important. 

  • Good description of context: OS, platform, libs, etc
  • Good description of symptom / problem 
  • Proper steps to reproduce

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1 hour ago, Lars Fosdal said:

I didn't read that as a conclusion, but as defining a goal for testing.
More diverse testing = better testing.

Naturally, the quality of the bug reports is important. 

  • Good description of context: OS, platform, libs, etc
  • Good description of symptom / problem 
  • Proper steps to reproduce

And also: Responding to any questions that may follow.

 

(Unfortunately I am guilty of not answering questions to some of my QC(?) reports: When I'm on holiday I simply can't. Guess what? They closed the report.)

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Just now, dummzeuch said:

They closed the report.)

You can dispute it then.

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