Delphi 10.4 IDE - F12 Editor/Designer toggle

[carlitos_k 0]

Hi,

 

I'm using Delphi 10.3 Rio in VirtualBox, I returned from 10.4 because of slow form or datamodule loading times, for my config it takes 5 to 10 seconds to load a form with say 20 components.

 

I use a Dell XPS 15, 16GB RAM, i7-7700HQ, 1TB SSD.

 

How much does this take in your PCs? Is it normal?

 

I tried disabling live bindings, wellcome page, etc..

 

Thank you in advance.

Carlos

[Vandrovnik 202]

If you put here .pas and .dfm file, I can try it on my PC and let you know (10.3.3 and patched 10.4.0).

[Uwe Raabe 1877]

That would only work if you have the same packages installed as Carlos has.

 

 

[carlitos_k 0]

Thanks for replying.

 

I guess that my problem is not a common experience for the rest of users, I'll try to investigate what's happening with our local Emb representative.

 

Thanks again!

[Guest]

I have an XPS, i7, 16GB, SSD, one of the first (9550).

It has a built-in 4K screen. Not all XPS's have that, some came with a sensible HD screen (1920). That will bog things down, IMHO.

When starting a "design-time-centred" project, fist in Berlin, the Rio and now in Sydney... well i was going bonanza crazy.

I went to the local store and bought some Asus-rog-based parts (around €1700) with an i9 and superfast memory and a huge fan. No graphics card (do not need it).

Wow. That works. Now it's possible to do these design-time stuff with 4 levels of visual inheritance and DX or another huge 3rd party lib.

*It sucks to sit on an expensive laptop that handles everything else with a breeze and watch the IDE go through all it's excessive update motions.*

This project can afford new hardware, but IMHO it should not be like that.

DX have ticket, other have tickets, the refreshed of the IDE are a mess. A serious mess that needs support deep down in the dfm-reader/s to be made workable again.. Emba ignores it as it seems.

 

/D

[carlitos_k 0]

Mine is 4k too, great laptop. The only detail is the palmrest material is starting to get sticky, I think it is the moisture in my area, Buenos Aires, Argentina.

I've been thinking of replacing the XPS with a 6 core i7, maybe a gaming machine, Lenovo Legion 5 17 FHD to avoid high DPI or for 500 bucks more a macbook pro 16 to be able to try macOS development with Delphi, but in any case I am trying to have a speedy development workstation. I want to maintain the VM usage, it is better in my opinion. 

10.3 Rio is faster because of IDE Fix Pack and LiveBindings disabling, I like the new features of 10.4 but decided to go back. I even tried installing it on the physical machine and it also lags. Maybe the IDE refresh is worse using 4K.

Personally I think Emba has lots of open fronts with the different platforms they decided to support, it is very hard to comply for a small company.

 

Carlos