Chris1701

I couldn't get it to work with the Raize controls dbgrid so I had to switch to the Alpha Controls dbgrid and it worked fine so problem solved

I actually own Alpha Controls and have a lifetime license, I'll take a look into this too

I'll give it a try and get back to you.

Because that only allows me to scroll to the top or bottom and up or down one item at a time, with the expanded scroll bar I can scroll up or down a page at a time making navigation of the dbgrid much easier; if there's a way to create a button that scrolls the dataset or dbgrid by a page at a time up or down I haven't been able to find it. I suppose I could determine the number of lines in the dbgrid and then scroll up or down in a loop by that number but I vaguely recall trying something like that before using this double the scrollbar width method and there was some kind of problem with it I couldn't resolve.

Yeah but as I said it works fine on the Windows 10 tablet and it did work fine on my old i7-6850K Intel Windows 8.1 desktop but on my new Ryzen-3950X Windows 10 desktop the line of code that sets the width works but gets stuck on that last line of code and never exits from the procedure setting the scrollbar width so I can;t debug code on my desktop anymore which makes it real hard to fix problems.

Thanks for the idea's but I'm kind of an old time guy and I just don't have the knowledge to make my own components or descendants of existing components to replace this changing of the system default scrollbar width so that's kind of out for me. Just to give a few more details that perhaps I should have included, the main form of this VCL application uses a Raize Components TrzDBGrid now I could replace that component with any other dbgrid that does the same thing but it's a navigation problem that it's too hard to scroll or search in the dbgrid using touch when the scroll bar which I understand from Peter is a windows common control and there's no way in either the default dbgrid or any of the alternate dbgrid's I have access to (the SMComponents dbgrid or the Alpha Controls dbgrid) to make it replace the windows common control with an alternate scrollbar and as I said my skills just aren't up to creating my own dbgrid descendant or my own scrollbar. Btw Peter Below has been a VIP in the Delphi forums for more than 15 years and he's helped me out more times than I can count (and he's never steered me wrong) so I don't think he would have suggested something that was very problematic and in fact he said he's used this method for the same reason.