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When will Delphi finally become open source? When it’s already too late to save it? Only then?

@Patrick PREMARTIN LOL WHAT?, that’s probably why C# and the .NET ecosystem are developing at a phenomenal pace, why the number of Delphi job offers keeps decreasing, and why all the world’s most important programming languages simply provide free, open-source code. I understand it’s a commercial company and it has to make money somehow, but maybe a different business model could be worked out?

Lars , Everything depends on how you perceive it. On the Titanic, for a long time most people did nothing, and until the very end many stayed positive, believing it was nothing serious.

@Lars Fosdal Because I like Delphi and I want it to live for another 30 years.

The truth hurts, doesn’t it? After all, it’s mainly dinosaurs in their 40, 50s and 60s who use it. In 10 years, and certainly in 20, Delphi will be nothing more than a memory. The decline is plain to see, even for its biggest fans.

after switching even worse slow as hell, first time see such crap in Delphi IDE. Works like on 386 CPU, horribly slow not smooth like in all the past versions of Delphi... ps. it happens in 25k lines plus in .pas file up to 5k is super smooth, above that slowly getting janky...

Janky scrolling in Delphi 13, any options to set this? Deferred scroll rendering is annoying.

Too bad that 64 bit IDE cannot produce 32 bit exe, but I cannot agree about speed, can you show example or some benchmark about 30-40% faster? From my micro benchmarks tests it's exactly the opposite and executed code is just faster in x64, however horribly much bigger exe size

yeah,, exactly, C# code is now in versions 8,9 and 10 preview just faster than Delphi. LOL

Anyone knows if EMB plans are for 12.3 maintenance bug fixing focused release or we wait for 13 (or skip unlucky no.) and go to 14. It's a shame that there is no roadmap like it was for the last decade and more.

LOOOOOOOOOOOOLL

I hope 12.3 will have own final ISO after few months (which will include Service packs and hotfixes) without further installing every single one. every major final release like 11.3, 12.3 should have super final iso.. For example currently 11.3 have like that.

Possibility to align caption text on buttons and other controls (easy way)

Just start to be realistic and first of all fix bugs Knock out all platforms expect Windows family (for rest that's what lazarus/fpc is for) and focus only on Windows and VCL + native support for ARM. Performance is poor, look how much optimization they do in C# in many aspects c#(net 9.0) code is already much faster than Delphi. Don't delude yourself that the shrinking business and extinct delphi programmers(sad but true) will make this a wishful thinking gig.... Sadly, no, either you have a product for everything (that is, for nothing, with 1000 bugs more or less serious), or you focus on a narrow field and polish it like a diamond. Dear coders, stop mas****ating to this extinct product with disastrous management by old dinosaur boomers. Come down to Earth. Maintaining all those features with all new is definetely too much for them. It only looks good in theory and marketing slogans.

That's how it works...until it stops. Unfortunately it doesn't work properly under Windows 11 properly, (7,8, 10 perfect) I've sent you the details on priv.

anyone else uses that from that forums?

Check priv please.

Anyone there uses their httpclient component? I need some help, due to fact that it does not work simply for me and support is dead, so anyone with sources maybe already resolved win11 issue?

No hope, IMO it's gone 4ever.

No.

@Remy Lebeau There was major issue in Windows 7 common with ssl (freezed connection for many seconds) whereas clever worked there like a charm. + lack of advanced TLS certification flags options and so on quickly made my decision to leave native Delphi http

It's joke components, I have tried their demo 4 years ago (access violation) I have tried now 4 years later and many releases ahead, still the same. Cannot treat it seriously if their own demo does not work.

Too bad, every buggy major release like 12 undoubtley is should have final bug fixing minor or at least big patch, including final patched totally ISO closing release. Like Version 11 have such all in one iso build which does not require to install later any patches.

Thanks John for this post. Well, very interesting info which puts new light, maybe they scammed Sergey first that's why clever guys disappered? Or why not both ways? ☺ Would be good if anyone from clever could commet there and cut speculations..

Solid components, anyway now from about a year it looks more like abandoned project (no support) and releases are very very rare now.