Chris Pim 34 Posted August 8, 2023 We've almost completed our app transition from 11.2 to 11.3 but have one remaining strange issue. We include a Today Extension widget with our iOS app, which works perfectly with Delphi 11.2. When I take the exact same code (fresh clone from Github) and run it from Delphi 11.3, the extension no longer works (I explain what this means below). I created a simple test app to reproduce the issue, which is what this post refers to but it's the same for our main app on the App Store too. I run 11.2 and 11.3 in separate VMs but both are running the same versions of Windows 11, same component versions etc. The test app doesn't use any third party components. All latest patches for 11.2 and 11.3 applied to the IDEs. All generated files (e.g. generated entitlements file) identical on both 11.2 and 11.3 Provisioning profile used to build the app is identical across 11.2 and 11.3. SDK Manager in the IDE imports iPhoneOS 16.4 on both. I created a new test app to produce a simplified version of the setup and reproduce the problem. The app is an FMX Delphi app.It pushes an integer via NSUserDefaults to the widget. The widget reads the same value (using app groups) and displays that number. The Delphi app also reads back the same key on load to display the last value to test the app is reading to the correct key (which it is). On the 11.2 build it works correctly as shown below. On 11.3, the Delphi app is writing to the NSUserDefault key correctly but the widget always shows 0. From debugging the widget, I've seen that it can access the NSUserDefault key no problem but it's always reading 0 when deployed with 11.3 - as though the app didn't write any values (which I've proven it has). My thoughts are that this is an issue with how Delphi is building the app differently in 11.3. I wonder if it's injecting something into the entitlements or changing a permission somehow between generating the files in the Debug folder and deploying to the bundle to the phone. Or maybe I'm missing something obvious. For those who are interested, the Today Extension was created with Xcode natively in Objective-C. The built files are then copied into the Delphi project and set to deploy into the ./PlugIns/<extension name> folder in the bundle. Both the extension and the app bundle ID need to have the same App Group associated with them in the Apple Developer portal, so they can both share data through NSUserDefaults, which is how the widget is passed data. Our app has included this for years and worked perfectly until Delphi 11.3 which is why I doubt it's anything we're doing at code level (or in the widget) that's caused this. We've run out of things to try, so wonder if anyone has any suggestions? I'm going to log this with Embarcadero as a bug, but suspect they have bigger things to look into than something this specific outside their normal use-cases. This is why I'm reaching out to the community for ideas 🙂 . Thank you! Share this post Link to post
Allen@Grijjy 44 Posted December 8, 2023 Did you ever figure anything out with this issue? I am exploring something similar and wondering if I should test an old Delphi version to see if it works. Share this post Link to post
Dave Nottage 538 Posted December 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Allen@Grijjy said: Did you ever figure anything out with this issue? It was reported in https://quality.embarcadero.com/browse/RSP-42283, but there are a couple of other similar reports, e.g. https://quality.embarcadero.com/browse/RSP-42415 The problem is that PAServer signs the extension with the wrong entitlements, and in Chris' (and my) case, it's unnecessary because the extension has already been correctly signed, i.e. it does not even need to be touched. Replacing the extension in the .app bundle, and using iosinstall to install the it solves the problem, at least debugging-wise. I expect a similar process will be needed for repackaging the .ipa. 1 Share this post Link to post
Allen@Grijjy 44 Posted December 8, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Dave Nottage said: The problem is that PAServer signs the extension with the wrong entitlements, and in Chris' (and my) case, it's unnecessary because the extension has already been correctly signed, i.e. it does not even need to be touched. Replacing the extension in the .app bundle, and using iosinstall to install the it solves the problem, at least debugging-wise. I expect a similar process will be needed for repackaging the .ipa. Thanks, I have been racking by brain about this. I wrote an article on how to do it back in 2018 for Grijjy but couldn't get any of it to work with Delphi 12 again. I tried just about everything so I appreciate the insight! Edited December 8, 2023 by Allen@Grijjy Share this post Link to post
Dave Nottage 538 Posted December 8, 2023 3 minutes ago, Allen@Grijjy said: couldn't get any of it to work with Delphi 12 again The problem was introduced in 11.3 - a "bug" was reported that I strongly suspect was not even a bug, and "fixing" it actually broke the process. 7 minutes ago, Allen@Grijjy said: I tried just about everything so I appreciate the insight. You can thank @Chris Pim for it - and it's because of him (and your article, thanks!) I'm finally on the track of making customized notifications on iOS work (though as far as user experience goes, it's pretty sucky compare to Android) 1 Share this post Link to post
Allen@Grijjy 44 Posted December 8, 2023 5 minutes ago, Dave Nottage said: You can thank @Chris Pim for it Thanks to Chris then! I wonder if we could unbundle the package during the pre-link stage and copy over the original .appex over the top of the Delphi ones after Delphi completes it's codesign step and then rebundle it before it's deployed? I imagine you already tried that though... have to give this some thought. 1 Share this post Link to post
Chris Pim 34 Posted December 10, 2023 The only solution we came up with for this was: 1. Copy the fully signed extension from XCode into the Delphi project (in our case deployed to the PlugIns folder). 2. Do a full build and deploy with Delphi (which damages the appex by re-signing with the wrong entitlements file) 3. Manually run a script which copies the original binary of the appex over the top of the one Delphi re-signs in the .app generated in the scratch-dir so it’s correct again. 4. The script then also has to re-run the iosinstall command to deploy the fixed app to the device. To help with step 3, I have the original binary from inside the .appex included in the deployment twice. Once into the PlugIns folder as expected and a second to ../ which puts a copy into the scratch-dir folder. By doing this, my script for stage 3 knows where to get the original file from and it’s always the pre-broken version. This works fine but has the manual step at the end which is a pain. Delphi doesn’t have a post-deploy stage in the project build options (like it does for post-build) which is a shame as the “copy-back” step could just be included there if it did. With any luck, EMB will undo the “fix” that broke this in 11.3 so it isn’t needed anymore. Maybe we should all vote for the issue to push it up their priority list. 1 1 Share this post Link to post
moises@coderbox.com.br 0 Posted July 17 On 12/8/2023 at 6:56 PM, Dave Nottage said: The problem was introduced in 11.3 - a "bug" was reported that I strongly suspect was not even a bug, and "fixing" it actually broke the process. You can thank @Chris Pim for it - and it's because of him (and your article, thanks!) I'm finally on the track of making customized notifications on iOS work (though as far as user experience goes, it's pretty sucky compare to Android) Hi @Dave Nottage, I hope you're doing well. Have you had any success with getting customized notifications to work on iOS? Specifically, I'm looking to send push notifications with an image in the payload. Share this post Link to post
Dave Nottage 538 Posted July 18 13 hours ago, moises@coderbox.com.br said: Have you had any success with getting customized notifications to work on iOS? Yes... 13 hours ago, moises@coderbox.com.br said: Specifically, I'm looking to send push notifications with an image in the payload. ...if by: "image in the payload", you mean: "a url to an image in the payload" As inferred in the earlier messages, doing so in a Push Notification is possible only by using an App Extension (in this case, a Notification Service extension) which needs to be an Xcode project. I've been ruminating over the best way to make the process as painless as possible, by providing a template Xcode project of which hopefully only a couple of properties need to be changed to match the Delphi project. As with other projects that require the user to follow a bunch of steps to integrate the solution, I'm apprehensive over the number of inevitable enquiries as to how to make it work. Share this post Link to post
moises@coderbox.com.br 0 Posted July 18 10 hours ago, Dave Nottage said: Yes... ...if by: "image in the payload", you mean: "a url to an image in the payload" As inferred in the earlier messages, doing so in a Push Notification is possible only by using an App Extension (in this case, a Notification Service extension) which needs to be an Xcode project. I've been ruminating over the best way to make the process as painless as possible, by providing a template Xcode project of which hopefully only a couple of properties need to be changed to match the Delphi project. As with other projects that require the user to follow a bunch of steps to integrate the solution, I'm apprehensive over the number of inevitable enquiries as to how to make it work. Hi @Dave Nottage, Thank you so much for your detailed response! I really appreciate the time and effort you put into explaining the need for using an App Extension (Notification Service Extension) to display images in push notifications on iOS. Your suggestion makes a lot of sense, and I believe a detailed step-by-step guide would be incredibly helpful, not just for me but for the entire community facing this challenge. If you could develop a more detailed walkthrough on creating and integrating the Notification Service Extension in a Delphi project, it would be greatly appreciated. Additionally, to achieve your objective, did you have to use the entire complexity described in @Chris Pim 's article (https://fmxnative.com/ios-extensions-with-firemonkey)? I am more than willing to assist in any way I can, whether it's testing the steps, providing feedback, or contributing to the documentation. Thank you again for your assistance, and I look forward to collaborating with you and the community to resolve this issue. Share this post Link to post
Dave Nottage 538 Posted July 20 On 7/19/2024 at 12:49 AM, moises@coderbox.com.br said: Additionally, to achieve your objective, did you have to use the entire complexity described in @Chris Pim 's article (https://fmxnative.com/ios-extensions-with-firemonkey)? I had not actually read Chris' article - I was aware of most of the process, however I did not realise the issues regarding building for App Store. That puts a whole new slant on things. I'd like to be able to automate as much as I can (via Codex/Mosco) On 7/19/2024 at 12:49 AM, moises@coderbox.com.br said: I am more than willing to assist in any way I can, whether it's testing the steps, providing feedback, or contributing to the documentation That's great! I'm sure to need testers and feedback. Share this post Link to post
Dave Nottage 538 Posted July 24 On 7/20/2024 at 11:57 AM, Dave Nottage said: That's great! I'm sure to need testers and feedback. Anyone who is interested in the work in progress (which is being tested now) should message me privately. 1 Share this post Link to post