Refactoring in Delphi

[Berocoder 14]

Builtin Refactoring in Delphi is bad. I think we all agree that MMX Explorer works better.

Have there ever been any talk with Embarcadero about use MMX Explorer instead? There is a link https://www.facebook.com/groups/137012246341854/permalink/7883294345046900/ that discuss replace builtin refactoring.

Any license problems?

[Uwe Raabe 2057]

5 hours ago, Berocoder said:

Have there ever been any talk with Embarcadero about use MMX Explorer instead?

At least back then they had no interest.

 

Current state:

• it is actively maintained
• it is available for a couple of recent Delphi versions
• it is free for all Delphi SKUs

Would you bet on all that not going to change?

[Lajos Juhász 293]

12 hours ago, Uwe Raabe said:

Would you bet on all that not going to change?

I can bet that Embarcadero would not support older versions of the Delphi. You would have to use the latest version of the IDE to have the latest version of MMX. 

 

The only thing that could be better in theory is integration. They would see what could be improved to make it work better. On the other hand, it does not work for the Bookmarks or the Parallel debugger or even for the KSVC.

 

[Uwe Raabe 2057]

17 minutes ago, Lajos Juhász said:

On the other hand, it does not work for the Bookmarks or the Parallel debugger

So they seem not to be able to manage it even when they hire the developer. 

 

21 minutes ago, Lajos Juhász said:

The only thing that could be better in theory is integration. They would see what could be improved to make it work better.

Obviously that is more wishful thinking than perception of reality. I simply cannot see anything like that going to happen in the foreseeable future.

 

BTW, I still even refuse to provide MMX via GetIt for several reasons.

[Lajos Juhász 293]

1 hour ago, Uwe Raabe said:

BTW, I still even refuse to provide MMX via GetIt for several reasons.

 

IMHO GetIt is the right choice to destroy any library. I see no benefit from it, just limits the choice for no benefit.

[Stefan Glienke 2002]

9 hours ago, Uwe Raabe said:

So they seem not to be able to manage it even when they hire the developer.

At least not if they promote that developer to PM 

[Lajos Juhász 293]

7 hours ago, Stefan Glienke said:

At least not if they promote that developer to PM 

 

That should be the best scenario. He knows where are the problems and as a manager should be able to allocate resources to solve the problem.