Issue with MMX 15.0.444.2474

[Ian Branch 127]

HI Team,

D10.4.2, Win 11.

When I installed the latest MMX I started to get the errors as indicated in the attached images.

The errors occur if I just open Delphi and close it straight away.

I swapped back to the previous version, 15.0.38.2440, and I don't get the errors.

I then swapped back to the new mmx again and the error returned.

 

Regards,

Ian

 

 

n.b.  edbrun235....  is an ElevateDB bpl.

 

Edited September 9, 2021 by Ian Branch

[Uwe Raabe 2057]

Up to now I am not able to reproduce. Unfortunately the error messages are of little help here.

[Ian Branch 127]

Hi Uwe,

Yes, I am not sure how to assist in tracking it down.

It is repeatable.

I can't say if it happens in D11 yet as Elevate Software hasn't released their D11 versions yet.

I have the latest MMX running fine in D11 ATT.

If there is something I can do to assist, let me know pls.

 

Regards,

Ian

[FredS 138]

13 minutes ago, Ian Branch said:

Yes, I am not sure how to assist in tracking it down.

Similar using Windows 7 and 15_0_45_2476 while 15.0.37 works..

 

Just in the process of repeating that install to track down that issue which also broke Sydney as well as Alex..

[FredS 138]

15_0_45_2476  gives me an exception in Delphi 11 on Windows 7:

 

• Attempting show 'Code Explorer' gave me an error and then this while clicking 'OK' to rebuild the index.
• In Sydney the 'Code Explorer' is docked but same error rebuilding the index with the form open, rebuilding is fine using the refresh button.
• Both required killing the process to get out of loop.
• 15.0.37 works in Sydney
• CodeSite Express, MadExcept and DevEx are installed

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[Ian Branch 127]

Hi Fred,

What are the chances our two issues are related....

[Uwe Raabe 2057]

Win 7 probably doesn't provide the API used to detect if the system is running in High DPI (not that Delphi 11 can run with or without High DPI) or not. I didn't expect Win 7 still to be a valid scenario. Seems that needs some more sophisticated approach.

 

For Win 11 I am unable to test, as I cannot run it here in the moment.

[Uwe Raabe 2057]

12 minutes ago, Uwe Raabe said:

I didn't expect Win 7 still to be a valid scenario.

At least I didn't make that up by myself:

Quote

You can run RAD Studio 10.4 Sydney on the following versions of Windows:

• Windows 10

So anything below Sydney is probably running on Windows 7 and there already is a check for this:

{$IF CompilerVersion < 34.0 Delphi 10.4 Sydney }

 

[FredS 138]

6 minutes ago, Uwe Raabe said:

So anything below Sydney is probably running on Windows 7

I checked Berlin and Rio both work with 15_0_45_2476..

[Ian Branch 127]

FWIW my issue is still present in D10.4.2 in MMX 15.0.45.2476.

With CnWizards v 1.2.0.1050 enabled I got an extra error..

This would seem to be a CnWizards issue.

Disabling CnWizards in D10.4.2 eliminated the extra error but I still had my original errors.

 

I also initially had an issue with MMX 15.0.45.2476 in D11 but if I disabled CnWizards v 1.2.0.1050 all was fine.

 

Regards,

Ian

Edited September 13, 2021 by Ian Branch

[Ian Branch 127]

FredS - Is your issue resolved??

[Ian Branch 127]

Hi Uwe,

I dropped this because I had moved on to D11.  The issues did not occur there.

My hand has been forced and I have moved back to D10.4.2 which involved a clean install of D10.4.2.

After all the patches etc for D10.4.2, the first thing I installed was GExperts.

The second thing installed was MMX 15.0.46.2479.

To my surprise, the issue I started this thread occurs. :-(  I had forgotten.

So, after some further testing I have determined it is something in the change from 15.0.38.2440 to the next version I have, 15.0.44.2474.

The issues occur with 44.2474, not with 38.2440.

Is there anything I can do/assist with to try to identify the problem?

I can work in the short term with having to 'OK' the messages  when I close D10.4.2, but it gets tedious after a while..

For now I will install 38.2440 but I am missing that tweak you did for me to the Uses clause sorting..

 

Regards,

Ian

[Uwe Raabe 2057]

18 minutes ago, Ian Branch said:

The issues occur with 44.2474, not with 38.2440.

There were no public versions released between 15.0.38 and 15.0.44. Unfortunately 15.0.44 contains all the changes necessary for the High DPI support in Delphi 11. This results in nearly 300 changed files in the project. Without any clue where to look at it is almost impossible to guess what is happening.

 

Can you track it down to the co-existance with any other plugin or design package? That would narrow down the test scenario to reproduce.

[Ian Branch 127]

6 hours ago, Uwe Raabe said:

Can you track it down to the co-existance with any other plugin or design package? That would narrow down the test scenario to reproduce.

At the initial installation of Delphi 10.4.2, and loading of MMX, the only other plugin at the time was the latest GExperts.

As I indicated having loaded MMX I exited Delphi, as I generally do as I load plugins, and the issue appeared.  I haven't bothered with cnPack yet.

I have since then loaded all my usual 3rd party libraries.

As a test I just now de-installed GExperts and reinstalled MMX 15.0.44.2474 and the Issue reappears.

 

Ian

[Ian Branch 127]

Hi Uwe,

 

Solved!  Although I don't understand why.

You will recall from above that one of the error messages was related to edbrunxxxx, the run time library for ElevateDB.

As a test I removed edbdesignxxxx from the components.

The issue and all errors disappeared.

I reinstalled EDB and the issues remain gone. ??

I am guessing that perhaps it was related to some hook(s) into the IDE that MMX was also trying to use.

Effectively changing them around changed the order of the hooks.

Having said that, it doesn't explain why I got the initial errors with only GExperts & MMX installed.

Oh Well.  I guess I should be happy that the issues have gone.

 

Thanks for your time/support.  Apologies if I caused any angst.

 

Regards,

Ian