David Hoyle

I'm well confused now! Below are the Experts being loaded. If GExperts is the last then I get the call stack exceptions also below (from a second clean instance of the IDE) but if I load GExperts earlier in the process (as per the list below) NO crash from the IDE 😕 Note: MMX is not enabled as this was added after I reported the issues yesterday so it disabled to ensure its not MMX. Looks like EurekaLog has a hanging notifier (I'll send this to them for them to have a look at this) and the Parnassus Core Editor has a handing reference. So @dummzeuch you don't need to do anything at the moment but I'm still perplexed that I had a stable IDE and then adding GExpert in suddenly causes the crashes. Exception 1 :208e1367 ; C:\Program Files (x86)\Embarcadero\Studio\20.0\bin\coreide260.bpl :237c2f2b EurekaLogExpert260.@Ecommon@GetCurrentProject$qqrx20System@UnicodeString + 0xc3 :237c1fdf ; D:\Documents\RAD Studio\Binaries\EurekaLog 7\Packages\Studio26\EurekaLogExpert260.bpl :2380b27f ; D:\Documents\RAD Studio\Binaries\EurekaLog 7\Packages\Studio26\EurekaLogExpert260.bpl :2380b46b ; D:\Documents\RAD Studio\Binaries\EurekaLog 7\Packages\Studio26\EurekaLogExpert260.bpl :208e6228 ; C:\Program Files (x86)\Embarcadero\Studio\20.0\bin\coreide260.bpl :208e68db coreide260.@Ideservices@FileNotification$qqr29Toolsapi@TOTAFileNotificationx20System@UnicodeString + 0x17 :0d84d850 Exception 2 :208e1367 ; C:\Program Files (x86)\Embarcadero\Studio\20.0\bin\coreide260.bpl :237c2f2b EurekaLogExpert260.@Ecommon@GetCurrentProject$qqrx20System@UnicodeString + 0xc3 :237c1fdf ; D:\Documents\RAD Studio\Binaries\EurekaLog 7\Packages\Studio26\EurekaLogExpert260.bpl :2380b29c ; D:\Documents\RAD Studio\Binaries\EurekaLog 7\Packages\Studio26\EurekaLogExpert260.bpl :2380b46b ; D:\Documents\RAD Studio\Binaries\EurekaLog 7\Packages\Studio26\EurekaLogExpert260.bpl :208e6228 ; C:\Program Files (x86)\Embarcadero\Studio\20.0\bin\coreide260.bpl :208e68db coreide260.@Ideservices@FileNotification$qqr29Toolsapi@TOTAFileNotificationx20System@UnicodeString + 0x17 :0d84d850 Exception 3 :208e1367 ; C:\Program Files (x86)\Embarcadero\Studio\20.0\bin\coreide260.bpl :237c2f2b EurekaLogExpert260.@Ecommon@GetCurrentProject$qqrx20System@UnicodeString + 0xc3 :237c1fdf ; D:\Documents\RAD Studio\Binaries\EurekaLog 7\Packages\Studio26\EurekaLogExpert260.bpl :2380b27f ; D:\Documents\RAD Studio\Binaries\EurekaLog 7\Packages\Studio26\EurekaLogExpert260.bpl :2380b46b ; D:\Documents\RAD Studio\Binaries\EurekaLog 7\Packages\Studio26\EurekaLogExpert260.bpl :208e6228 ; C:\Program Files (x86)\Embarcadero\Studio\20.0\bin\coreide260.bpl :208e68db coreide260.@Ideservices@FileNotification$qqr29Toolsapi@TOTAFileNotificationx20System@UnicodeString + 0x17 :0d84d850 Exception 4 :208e1367 ; C:\Program Files (x86)\Embarcadero\Studio\20.0\bin\coreide260.bpl :237c2f2b EurekaLogExpert260.@Ecommon@GetCurrentProject$qqrx20System@UnicodeString + 0xc3 :237c1fdf ; D:\Documents\RAD Studio\Binaries\EurekaLog 7\Packages\Studio26\EurekaLogExpert260.bpl :2380b29c ; D:\Documents\RAD Studio\Binaries\EurekaLog 7\Packages\Studio26\EurekaLogExpert260.bpl :2380b46b ; D:\Documents\RAD Studio\Binaries\EurekaLog 7\Packages\Studio26\EurekaLogExpert260.bpl :208e6228 ; C:\Program Files (x86)\Embarcadero\Studio\20.0\bin\coreide260.bpl :208e68db coreide260.@Ideservices@FileNotification$qqr29Toolsapi@TOTAFileNotificationx20System@UnicodeString + 0x17 :0d84d850 Exception 5 RTL.System._IntfClear(???) :500679a8 @IntfClear + $10 :125d2813 ; D:\OneDrive\Documents\Embarcadero\Studio\20.0\CatalogRepository\ParnassusCoreEditor-1.0\ParnassusCoreEditor.dll :125f2c90 ; D:\OneDrive\Documents\Embarcadero\Studio\20.0\CatalogRepository\ParnassusCoreEditor-1.0\ParnassusCoreEditor.dll RTL.System._IntfClear(???) :500679ab @IntfClear + $13 RTL.System.TInterfacedObject._Release RTL.System._IntfClear(???) :500679ab @IntfClear + $13 RTL.System.TObject.Free RTL.System.SysUtils.FreeAndNil(???) :5005f8eb TObject.Free + $B RTL.System._Halt0 :50061935 @Halt0 + $B1 :775f0466 ntdll.RtlFreeUserStack + 0xb6 :775bd40c ntdll.RtlGetNtSystemRoot + 0x6c :775cb044 ntdll.LdrShutdownProcess + 0xf4 :775deed5 ntdll.RtlExitUserProcess + 0xb5 :75364f33 KERNEL32.ExitProcess + 0x13 RTL.System._Halt0 :5006199a @Halt0 + $116 :75360419 KERNEL32.BaseThreadInitThunk + 0x19 :775e662d ntdll.RtlGetAppContainerNamedObjectPath + 0xed :775e65fd ntdll.RtlGetAppContainerNamedObjectPath + 0xbd

@dummzeuchIt might be something to do with most if not all the Embarcadero servers not working properly and 10.3.2 cannot authenticate you current license.

@timfrost I'll investigate removing other packages (some my own other not) until GExperts stops crashing. I'll even try debugging the crash to see what is causing it.

Which brings us back to another conversation... I will not comment on

@Markus KinzlerSometimes a refresh doesn't work and you need to remove and re-add the license to get the updated permissions.

Slight problem with the about dialogue (on a large screen 2560 x 1440 @ 100% scaling)... i.e. I can't read it 😞

Thomas, I originally has 1.3.12.76 but before reporting the issue updated to 1.3.13.77 from your website (so the installer version not my own).

Thomas, Unfortunately, it would seem something has changed in RAD Studio which is now crashing GExperts. The following appear when you shutdown the IDE (whether its immediately after opening or after a time of working). I know its GExperts as I've removed all experts and added them back one at a time until the last one to be added was GExperts (as I suspected it might be - only because its likely to be one of the few experts that will work outside of the OTA). I've tried to get more information by changing EurekaLog's IDE settings to capture all errors but it would seem they are happening after the EL BPL had unloaded. If you need more information, please ask and I'll debug the IDE with the IDE (although I don't have the GExperts source).

@dummzeuch I don't think there is as I implemented a shortcut of my own in Browse and Doc It a long time ago (I use CTRL+SHIFT+ALT+<Enter> as the default).

I was trying to find an updated reference for this but it goes something like this... TComponent and all its derivatives (components on forms) are designed to be loaded and save to the DFM files, in binary format or text. The IDE uses this when you visually design a form and places all event handlers and component references in the top of a class which is a published scope. These contain RTTI information for the loading and saving mechanisms. When you run your application the same streaming mechanisms are used to load your forms from the DFM which are resources within your EXE. If you've moved the declarations to another scope other than published then they cannot be loaded either by the IDE or by your application at run-time.

All IDE managed components on a form and their event handlers must be published as this is the mechanism the IDE uses to load and save the form layout and event handler.

@ByteJuggler Out of interest (as I do COM DLLs for Excel 32 and 64) I assume you are having to import the 64-bit version as you do not have 32-bit and you want to use feature post Office 2002?

Still can't find the article which I think was written by David Millington but my new Windows 10 system suggests that RAD Studio 10.3.1 is using .NET 4 (looking in the about dialogue's list of DLL version numbers).

If I remember those 2 versions of the IDE use different version of .NET. I think 10.3 changed to a higher version then was previously used (Can't remember the exact version but I think that 10.3 use .NET 3 or 3.5).

@Uwe Raabe Thanks. I had not made that distinction before. I'll experiment with a test application tonight to see where I get.