Bug in Delphi CODE INSIGHT?

[PeterPanettone 157]

When I create a new VCL Application from scratch in the Delphi 10.3.1 IDE with File -> New -> Windows VCL Application then everything including CODE INSIGHT works well. 

 

This newly created VCL Application project has the "Use MSBuild externally to compile" project option set to FALSE as default:

 

 

But when I set the "Use MSBuild externally to compile" project option manually to TRUE: 

 

 

...(and then rebuild the project) then CODE INSIGHT does not work anymore: This affects the Code Insight popup menu which normally is invoked after typing a DOT:

 

 

...and so the Code Insight popup menu does not show up anymore!

 

Question: Is this a BUG in the IDE?

 

Edited June 27, 2019 by PeterPanettone

[Stefan Glienke 2002]

Known issue: https://quality.embarcadero.com/browse/RSP-20760

Maybe with the reworked tooling based on LSP in 10.4 it will work.

[PeterPanettone 157]

12 minutes ago, Stefan Glienke said:

Maybe with the reworked tooling based on LSP in 10.4 it will work.

That would be like Christmas, Easter and birthday together.

[Stefan Glienke 2002]

1 minute ago, PeterPanettone said:

That would be like Christmas, Easter and birthday together.

Experience has told me to not get too excited yet 😉 

[Fritzew 51]

4 minutes ago, PeterPanettone said:

That would be like Christmas, Easter and birthday together.

But all on the same day........

[PeterPanettone 157]

16 minutes ago, Stefan Glienke said:

Experience has told me to not get too excited yet 😉

I also always try to avoid Πρόωρη εκσπερμάτωση. 

[Rollo62 536]

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"Use MSBuild externally to compile"

Do you really need that feature still to avoid out-of-memory ?
In recent versions of the IDE this was much improved, and I haven't used it anymore since the last versions.

[Stefan Glienke 2002]

3 minutes ago, Rollo62 said:

In recent versions of the IDE this was much improved, and I haven't used it anymore since the last versions.

The memory consumption of the compiler highly depends on the code you are dealing with - heavy usage of otherwise harmless generics can quickly explode (I know this because I heavily worked on that subject as much as I could for spring4d 2.0)

[PeterPanettone 157]

19 minutes ago, Rollo62 said:

Do you really need that feature still to avoid out-of-memory ?

No, I often get projects where this option is set to True.

[Guest]

I suffered from "Out of Memory" quite some in different version of Delphi.

The latest sizeable project in Tokyo was a pain when trying to "Compile from here" some 4-5 projects.

I updated my DevEx library and the problem went away for Tokyo.

So - yes, these thing are dependent on multiple factors.

IMHO it is not an overly quaint demand to have a single Delphi user start the IDE as admin and debug.

So many 3rd party stuff (and some of Embas stuff is very 4th party...).

IMHO it's something akin to Windows itself. The new laptop works so beautifully until you install 100+ of apps, devices, drivers and whatnot.

Of course, i can be nostalgic and think of the CP/M MD-DOS times. We controlled everything but with that environ you cannot compete today.