Sherlock

@PeterPanettone: Though you try to put humor in your writing, I recommend one of two things:

1. Take a deep breath before you begin to write a reply, imagine what others may read in that reply, how they might feel, if you would want to be addressed that way and most importantly, if it will have any positive impact on solving your issue
2. Read your posts after writing them, then take a deep breath, delete all and rewrite according to option 1

Please don't get personal. No good will come of it.

I see issue 21814...I see no with. Both eyes open...Brain perhaps not at 100% though.

@Mike Torrettinni I hope you did not feel triggered by me. I am really interested in your use case. I have users, that simply don't care about IT, they are forced into using my software (healthcare professionals especially midwifes sometimes seem to have chosen their job, because they hoped to never use a computer). So I have to keep the error messages to a minimum, in very rare cases resulting in a painful process of almost restarting the complete application - unbeknownst to the user. Just so they don't find a reason to stop using the software, and believe me, they are looking for one all the time

I get it, I really do, but how do your customers catch incorrect results? And how do they know they are not getting incorrect results all of the time?

Well, not showing exceptions and eliminating exception handling altogether are two different pairs of shoes, are they not? Why not log into some %APPDATA% folder every bug, that occurs and try to keep the application running. When a bug does manage to get reported ask someone to send you the (doubtlessly numerous) log files.

Apple for example highly discourages to display error messages in their iOS human interface guidelines. BUT they do encourage logging, and offer means to retrieve those logs from devices.

59 minutes ago, Mike Torrettinni said:

I would rather have wrong results reported by users (and then I see that Range On would catch a bug and I fix it) vs to trigger exception to the customer.

If you expect your customers to double check your results, why should they use your software in the first place?

Since nothing is as volatile as a web thing, consider keeping that in a text file and load it once your application has started. This gives you the added benefit of being able to change this HTML-File without the need for an update.

Ohhh, OK. Thanks. I thought I had been sidestepping an extremely powerful library here.

1 hour ago, Lars Fosdal said:

"A whole lot of stuff"

 

Is all that part of the OTL? Then I definitely have to look into that.

21 hours ago, Angus Robertson said:

ICS has a lot of really old examples untested for 10 years, really should be removed. 

Please, don't remove "old examples" validate your code against them and update the examples if needed. For me it is very hard to use anything without a near complete set of examples.

I too am a Consolas guy.

Fellas, please. If Attila thinks he gave enough information, you have two options: Either write an answer based on that, or don't write at all. This should please not escalate.

4 hours ago, Lars Fosdal said:

Usually, changing the spelling leads to something unpleasant happening, such as a mismatch between stream content and object property, DB field names, etc.

I get that, really I do, but my brain hurts...

According to the msdn, this is the meaning of the error number:

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ERROR_INTERNET_SECURITY_CHANNEL_ERROR

12157

The application experienced an internal error loading the SSL libraries.

This of course could mean, that your XP can't communicate with the https server you are trying to contact...or anything else that might go wrong with a severely outdated system trying to communicate within a network.

Sorry about that, totally overlooked that report.

I finally got around to installing 10.3.3 and now I get this message every time I quit Delphi:

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Anwendungsfehler
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Exception EAssertionFailed in Modul GExpertsRS103.dll bei 00055131.

Call DeactivateFontsInfo before calling this. (D:\source\_sourceforge\GExperts\externalsource\UniSynEdit\SynTextDrawer.pas, Zeile 475).

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OK   
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I have been getting a more generic error ever since 10.2 but kind of got used to it. This now is more specific and I'll report it to the GExperts bug tracker as well.

6 hours ago, Dave Nottage said:

I've finally discovered the problem: The sin6_scope_id member of LSockAddrIPv6 needed to be set to the index of the interface that has the address.

And what does that line look like?

That's a NASty bug.

*SCNR*

The VS and the AutoCAD toolbars look self drawn, not OS drawn with some decoration glued on them. However, I don't see the Delphi issue on my 100% screen.

😱

I think we should better get back on track...

Maybe errors are the norm and what we consider to be correct is the true error.

16 hours ago, PeterPanettone said:

My colleague just created one:

 

https://quality.embarcadero.com/browse/RSP-27253

 

Please vote for it.

I'd love to, but alas the Gods wont let me:

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The server encountered an internal error (com.atlassian.jira.exception.DataAccessException: org.ofbiz.core.entity.GenericDataSourceException: Unable to establish a connection with the database. (Network error IOException: Connection timed out: connect)) that prevented it from fulfilling this request.

No, sorry.

Same in 10.3.2, possibly even in 10.3.1.

Sorry, but no. You very aptly described hotkeys. An example for a shortcut is Ctrl+C to cut a marked object. The corresponding Hotkey sequence could be Alt+E to enter the Edit Menu then C to copy. Or to use your screenshot: a possible hotkey sequence to close all files would be Alt+F, L. The shortcut is Shift+Ctrl+F12.