Reverse scrolling TEdt?

[Angus Robertson 574]

Looking for a visual component similar to TEdit (but read only) that adds new lines at the top of the window, and pushes them down, reverse scrolling.  Ideally forward or reverse scrolling should be an option.

 

Angus

 

[Cristian Peța 103]

If I understand right, this should do the job:

ListBox1.Items.Insert(0, 'New string');

or

ListBox1.Items.Add('New string');

[Angus Robertson 574]

Yes, inserting a line at the top works, but is it efficient to push 100,000 lines lower?   Particularly when adding 100 lines.  There must be a better way.

 

Angus

 

[Attila Kovacs 629]

The last time I did something similar I was using some kind of virtual table reverse ordered and bound to some db-control, like dblist or dbgrid.

[Cristian Peța 103]

I was curious...

 

Using a dataset is faster but this takes about 4 sec. on my machine. Second try about 14 sec.

  ListBox1.Items.BeginUpdate;
  for i := 1 to 100000 do
    ListBox1.Items.Insert(0, 'New string ' + i.ToString);
  ListBox1.Items.EndUpdate;

But with TClientDataSet first 3 sec., second 8 sec.:

  if not ClientDataSet1.Active then begin
    ClientDataSet1.FieldDefs.Clear;
    ClientDataSet1.FieldDefs.Add('Time', ftDateTime);
    ClientDataSet1.FieldDefs.Add('Str', ftWideString, 100);
    ClientDataSet1.CreateDataSet;
    ClientDataSet1.AddIndex('Index1', 'Time', [], 'Time');
    ClientDataSet1.IndexName := 'Index1';
  end;
  ClientDataSet1.DisableControls;
  for i := 1 to 100000 do
    ClientDataSet1.AppendRecord([Now, 'New string ' + i.ToString]);
  ClientDataSet1.EnableControls;

P.S. Second try adding more 100,000 lines to first.

 

Edited September 11, 2019 by Cristian Peța

[Angus Robertson 574]

Of course I meant TMemo in the subject...

 

A virtual TListView is very useful for rapid sorting for columnar data, but I'm displaying random textual information, might be raw data from 50 GPS locators, router syslogs, or alarms from remote monitoring of transmitters or properties, and it's the latter low traffic where people ask for latest at top of window rather than bottom.

 

Angus

[timfrost 78]

While I was typing a message which essentially said, "why not a TMemo", a notification of the first answer here popped up, so I did not bother.  And it turns out your real question was as much about organising large numbers of additions as about the component to view them.  I have an application which uses a VirtualTreeView for this purpose. This allows you to optimise the loading and updating of the list completely separately from the viewing of it.  The VTV handles all the scrolling for you, and you simply insert nodes.  Inserting takes much the same time if you insert at the top. bottom, or middle, and the items just appear on the screen, which only has to redisplay the currently visible nodes, wherever you do the insertion.  It can be made extremely fast and efficiemt. especially if loading/updating the data is done in a background thread and notified to your inserter code.

[Angus Robertson 574]

The problem with ListView or VirtualTreeView is I'd have to write a code to parse text file lines into an array of lines as the data source.  Mind I guess that is what TMemo is doing when I load a TStringList into it, worth a little test code.

 

Angus

 

[timfrost 78]

It is not clear whether you actually need to keep them somewhere structured and ordered, like a stringlist.  For a VTV, I would create a nodedata structure for each one containing either the string or a pointer to it, then just insert the node.  If you do want an ordered list later, you can just walk the tree; if not, you are done when you have created the node structure and inserted it.

[Angus Robertson 574]

The purpose is to display the content of one of up to 999 text files selected from a tab control, no columns or sortable data, just random lines of text up to 2K long.  So each time the tab is clicked to change a source file, the TMemo is reloaded with lines.  I don't need the complexity of VTV, no headers, footers, columns, nodes, etc.  TListView will handle virtual data quite adequately, if I can remove the header. 

 

But I really would prefer a TMemo that reverses the TStringList loaded into it, top latest.

 

Angus

[Angus Robertson 574]

The GUI looks like this and it's the left window that show data.

 

Angus.

[Bill Meyer 337]

3 hours ago, Angus Robertson said:

But I really would prefer a TMemo that reverses the TStringList loaded into it, top latest.

That aspect you should be able to resolve easily enough with a TStringList as a buffer, and just iterate through the source stringlist from bottom to top, copying lines to the destination.

[Attila Kovacs 629]

you could also just do a Memo1.Lines.Insert(0, s); instead of Lines.Add(); (which is actually Insert(GetCount, s);)

and you do not have to change much

[Angus Robertson 574]

Yes, best to test the quickest solution first and only do something harder if it's too slow. Reverse scrolling is only wanted by people with slow data updates like alarms who actually watch the screen, no-one watches syslogs rushing past at 10 lines per second, except to see something is arriving.  \

 

Angus

 

[Guest]

From having put "logwindows" in a multitude of application, i'd go for something "virtual" from start. Logs grow. Demand on readability will come. Just my .05€.