Unresponsive IDE and massive memory leaks with RIO

[Attila Kovacs 629]

@Stefan Glienke Can't reproduce. But instead of removing something from the path I've switched to x64 where several things are missing. 

[Attila Kovacs 629]

@Stéphane Wierzbicki Are those 3.6M entrys all these kind of items? Name not found? Are they recurring? Do you have this CPU load on a "real" fresh install too?

[Stefan Glienke 2002]

6 minutes ago, Attila Kovacs said:

Can't reproduce.

I add Generics.Collections to some uses, then ctrl+click on it, boom

 

 

Anyhow this is not the issue here as Uwe said, even 500 million failed createfiles are not burning a CPU core but rather the HDD/SSD.

How you can see what is burning your CPU was explained in the other thread.

Edited December 11, 2018 by Stefan Glienke

[Stéphane Wierzbicki 45]

15 minutes ago, Attila Kovacs said:

@Stéphane Wierzbicki Are those 3.6M entrys all these kind of items? Name not found? Are they recurring? Do you have this CPU load on a "real" fresh install too?

Yes they are. 

 

I guess that Stephan and Uwe are rights : those entries are not the culprit of my high cpu. 

 

I've to find now whith bpl is causing this. I'll remove all of them and try one by one... (a lot of TMS, FastReports and plenty of open source 3rd parties...) 

 

Edited December 11, 2018 by Stéphane Wierzbicki

[jbg 239]

You can get rid of the failing CreateFile calls by using the attached IDEFixPack development snapshot. But you shouldn't come anywhere near the Win64 or Android compiler if it is installed. Only the Win32 compiler and IDE patches are already working (including the compiler directory cache that eliminates the unnecessary CreateFile calls).

 

You can ignore the error messages during the splash screen that tell you that Win64 and Android patches couldn't be applied.

 

IDEFixPackD103RegDev_not_even_alpha.7z

Edited December 11, 2018 by jbg

[Attila Kovacs 629]

Hahaha, that's why I can't reproduce 😄

Thx for jumping in 😉

[Stéphane Wierzbicki 45]

Removing all 3rd parties components (deleting all reg. entries from "know packages" except EMB ones) and removing all Experts (deleting all reg. entries from "Experts") didn't helps. Only 3rd party search path remains untouched.  IDE keep freezing. What I've noticed is that happens *always* after the same (more and less) amount of time.

 

I killed then the IDE and I deleted the hkcu\software\embarcadero\bds\20 reg key.

Started Delphi, opened my project and start double clicking on each "non visual" units and then double clicking my main form again.

I then got this endless exception "invalid pointer" :

 

[5005F7F0]{rtl260.bpl  } System.TObject.FreeInstance (Line 17403, "System.pas" + 2) + $2
[5005A49E]{rtl260.bpl  } System.ErrorAt (Line 5719, "System.pas" + 3) + $4
[5005A4E2]{rtl260.bpl  } System.Error (Line 5730, "System.pas" + 1) + $7
[5005F7F0]{rtl260.bpl  } System.TObject.FreeInstance (Line 17403, "System.pas" + 2) + $2
[5006007E]{rtl260.bpl  } System.@ClassDestroy (Line 18816, "System.pas" + 0) + $2
[50CBF3BD]{vcl260.bpl  } Vcl.Graphics.TFont.Destroy (Line 2452, "Vcl.Graphics.pas" + 5) + $6
[5005F8E8]{rtl260.bpl  } System.TObject.Free (Line 17466, "System.pas" + 1) + $4
[50CC064D]{vcl260.bpl  } Vcl.Graphics.TCanvas.Destroy (Line 3733, "Vcl.Graphics.pas" + 4) + $3
[50CE19AC]{vcl260.bpl  } Vcl.Controls.TControlCanvas.Destroy (Line 5096, "Vcl.Controls.pas" + 2) + $6
[5005F8E8]{rtl260.bpl  } System.TObject.Free (Line 17466, "System.pas" + 1) + $4
[50CEFFB5]{vcl260.bpl  } Vcl.Controls.TCustomControl.Destroy (Line 14182, "Vcl.Controls.pas" + 1) + $6
[5005F8E8]{rtl260.bpl  } System.TObject.Free (Line 17466, "System.pas" + 1) + $4
[52822F16]{vcldesigner260.bpl} VCLSurface.TVclDesignSurface.CancelDragHint (Line 4545, "VCLSurface.pas" + 9) + $0
[5281EF8C]{vcldesigner260.bpl} VCLSurface.TVclDesignSurface.InstanceRemoved (Line 2905, "VCLSurface.pas" + 1) + $2
[52821492]{vcldesigner260.bpl} VCLSurface.TVclDesignSurface.Notification (Line 3899, "VCLSurface.pas" + 17) + $6
[50E339F2]{vcl260.bpl  } Vcl.Forms.TCustomForm.Notification (Line 3907, "Vcl.Forms.pas" + 42) + $C
[20FE8FB1]{designide260.bpl} Proxies.NotificationHook (Line 311, "Proxies.pas" + 8) + $B
[50171BB9]{rtl260.bpl  } System.Classes.TComponent.RemoveFreeNotifications (Line 16161, "System.Classes.pas" + 3) + $9
[501719E0]{rtl260.bpl  } System.Classes.TComponent.Destroy (Line 16092, "System.Classes.pas" + 4) + $0
[50CE231D]{vcl260.bpl  } Vcl.Controls.TControl.Destroy (Line 5471, "Vcl.Controls.pas" + 24) + $6
[07D11B3A]{themeloader260.bpl} Idetheme.Stylemanager.TIDEThemeStyleEngine.UnRegisterSysStyleHook + $18E
[50CE6E0D]{vcl260.bpl  } Vcl.Controls.TWinControl.Destroy (Line 8587, "Vcl.Controls.pas" + 45) + $6
[50CEFFC0]{vcl260.bpl  } Vcl.Controls.TCustomControl.Destroy (Line 14183, "Vcl.Controls.pas" + 2) + $6
[5005F8E8]{rtl260.bpl  } System.TObject.Free (Line 17466, "System.pas" + 1) + $4
[52822F16]{vcldesigner260.bpl} VCLSurface.TVclDesignSurface.CancelDragHint (Line 4545, "VCLSurface.pas" + 9) + $0
[528228CD]{vcldesigner260.bpl} VCLSurface.TVclDesignSurface.DragHintMouseMessage (Line 4393, "VCLSurface.pas" + 7) + $2
[52820B92]{vcldesigner260.bpl} VCLSurface.TVclDesignSurface.IsDesignMsg (Line 3597, "VCLSurface.pas" + 56) + $14
[5005FC0A]{rtl260.bpl  } System.@IsClass (Line 17950, "System.pas" + 1) + $8
[50CE4D2F]{vcl260.bpl  } Vcl.Controls.TControl.WndProc (Line 7300, "Vcl.Controls.pas" + 4) + $21
[07D1338D]{themeloader260.bpl} System.Generics.Collections. + $15
[50067E88]{rtl260.bpl  } System.@IntfClear (Line 38150, "System.pas" + 10) + $0
[500640D8]{rtl260.bpl  } System.@FinalizeArray (Line 32811, "System.pas" + 144) + $0
[5006EB07]{rtl260.bpl  } System.Types.TRect.Contains (Line 1661, "System.Types.pas" + 1) + $3
[50CE920C]{vcl260.bpl  } Vcl.Controls.GetControlAtPos (Line 9967, "Vcl.Controls.pas" + 4) + $13
[50CE9620]{vcl260.bpl  } Vcl.Controls.TWinControl.WndProc (Line 10089, "Vcl.Controls.pas" + 10) + $48
[50CE9336]{vcl260.bpl  } Vcl.Controls.TWinControl.ControlAtPos (Line 9990, "Vcl.Controls.pas" + 13) + $E
[50CE93B9]{vcl260.bpl  } Vcl.Controls.TWinControl.IsControlMouseMsg (Line 10008, "Vcl.Controls.pas" + 9) + $2A
[50CE9BAB]{vcl260.bpl  } Vcl.Controls.TWinControl.WndProc (Line 10245, "Vcl.Controls.pas" + 166) + $6
[50E34DB9]{vcl260.bpl  } Vcl.Forms.TCustomForm.WndProc (Line 4629, "Vcl.Forms.pas" + 209) + $5
[5005FA99]{rtl260.bpl  } System.TObject.GetInterface (Line 17847, "System.pas" + 15) + $10
[5282A01B]{vcldesigner260.bpl} VCLFormContainer.TControlSizer.ControlWndProc (Line 379, "VCLFormContainer.pas" + 33) + $C
[528227F9]{vcldesigner260.bpl} VCLSurface.TVclDesignSurface.IsHintMsg (Line 4365, "VCLSurface.pas" + 2) + $10
[52819FFD]{vcldesigner260.bpl} VCLSurface..TVCLDesignerDataObject (Line 572, "VCLSurface.pas" + 0) + $1315
[50CE9178]{vcl260.bpl  } Vcl.Controls.TWinControl.MainWndProc (Line 9944, "Vcl.Controls.pas" + 3) + $6
[50174370]{rtl260.bpl  } System.Classes.CalcJmpOffset (Line 17554, "System.Classes.pas" + 0) + $0
[50E3E7A7]{vcl260.bpl  } Vcl.Forms.TApplication.ProcessMessage (Line 10724, "Vcl.Forms.pas" + 23) + $1
[50E3E7EA]{vcl260.bpl  } Vcl.Forms.TApplication.HandleMessage (Line 10754, "Vcl.Forms.pas" + 1) + $4
[50E3EB1D]{vcl260.bpl  } Vcl.Forms.TApplication.Run (Line 10892, "Vcl.Forms.pas" + 26) + $3
[00517FFA]{bds.exe     } bds.bds (Line 214, "" + 7) + $7

 

Edited December 12, 2018 by Stéphane Wierzbicki

[Stéphane Wierzbicki 45]

21 hours ago, jbg said:

You can get rid of the failing CreateFile calls by using the attached IDEFixPack development snapshot. But you shouldn't come anywhere near the Win64 or Android compiler if it is installed. Only the Win32 compiler and IDE patches are already working (including the compiler directory cache that eliminates the unnecessary CreateFile calls).

 

You can ignore the error messages during the splash screen that tell you that Win64 and Android patches couldn't be applied.

 

IDEFixPackD103RegDev_not_even_alpha.7z

 

@David Millington and @Uwe Raabe it is embarrassing IDE is (so far) no more freezing... Looks like something is screwed in current IDE implementation.

@jbg many thanks for this.

 

@John Kouraklis can you try this and tell me if this solves your issue (or not) ?

Edited December 12, 2018 by Stéphane Wierzbicki

[John Kouraklis 94]

@Stéphane Wierzbicki I installed the not-alpha-IDEFixPack now 10.3 works smoothly.

 

I'll keep using it for the next few days and report back

Edited December 14, 2018 by John Kouraklis

[Stéphane Wierzbicki 45]

If anyone want to look at this :

 

https://quality.embarcadero.com/browse/RSP-23000

 

[Attila Kovacs 629]

Cool. Is it possible that you have a recursion in your search dir tree? Like for example "Users\xxxxx\AppData\Local\Application Data" points to "Users\xxxxx\AppData\Local".

 

Edited December 15, 2018 by Attila Kovacs

[jbg 239]

The call stack you've posted is from the main thread. The more interesting call stack would be the one of the ErrorInsight parser's thread.

[Stéphane Wierzbicki 45]

@jbg how can I achieve this ?

[jbg 239]

4 hours ago, Stéphane Wierzbicki said:

@jbg how can I achieve this ?

Here is a description of how to debug the IDE.

 

[Stéphane Wierzbicki 45]

1 hour ago, jbg said:

Here is a description of how to debug the IDE.

 

@jbg Ohhh this is perfect. I will try to get you more details. 

Edited December 15, 2018 by Stéphane Wierzbicki

[Stéphane Wierzbicki 45]

@jbg I'm always getting these call stacks when pressing F12 key. 

 

 

 

 

[Günther Schoch 61]

We have reported similar issues already middle of Sept 

https://quality.embarcadero.com/browse/RSP-21972

https://quality.embarcadero.com/browse/RSP-22289

it's reproduced by EMBT but nothing happened until now. The fact is that EMBT just has not included the TDirectoryCache of the fixpack. This is a show stopper on our side as the IDE fully blocks during the work.

Edited December 18, 2018 by Günther Schoch

[Stéphane Wierzbicki 45]

2 hours ago, Günther Schoch said:

We have reported similar issues already middle of Sept. 

it's reproduced by EMBT but nothing happened until now. The fact is that EMBT just has not included the TDirectoryCache of the fixpack. This is a show stopper on our side as the IDE fully blocks during the work.

I'm very upset. They are aware of the problem, they are watching this forum and no communication at all. 

 

How do they treat their customers? Sorry but this is really disrespectful.