dummzeuch 1717 Posted 10 hours ago 5 hours ago, Joseph MItzen said: Well, that right there is some low-hanging fruit FOR AUTOMATIC CODE FORMATTING. Not sure about the automatic part: Assume you have some legacy code to work on from an era that used a different formatting style. Do you really want it to be automatically reformatted? How do you track the changes you make? The only option is to do the reformatting and commit that change, before you make any manual changes, but that breaks the blame functionality (or whatever your SCM calls it) for older changes. So I usually only format the parts of the code I actually work on and leave the rest as is. 2 Share this post Link to post
Lars Fosdal 1923 Posted 10 hours ago 1 hour ago, Dalija Prasnikar said: Right now RAD Studio is extremely overpriced. I don't disagree, but for my use case, VS still is more expensive. That said - Right now, I'd not be happy if I was on RAD Studio Architect sub. I also think that the division between Pro and Enterprise is artificial, and not having Linux in the lower tiers is idiotic. That is where you find the tinkerers that actually would use it the most, creating most traction, and contributing most to open source. The problem is the enterprise trap - where you get more money from fewer users that typically are demanding less support. If you merge the tiers and lower the price and triple or quadruple the user mass - you will need more support people. It is not easy to set up a formula for what is more beneficial for the EMBT/Idera vs what is beneficial for us users. 5 Share this post Link to post
Dalija Prasnikar 1552 Posted 5 hours ago 4 hours ago, Lars Fosdal said: you will need more support people. Support for what? There is no free support. Only for installation problems and I don't think there are to many of those. Embarcadero needs to lower low end prices to bring in new users. I doubt there are many prospective new users willing to shell out over 1600$ on new PRO license. Not to mention that there is no upgrade path for existing users with old versions. They need to pay full price. 6 Share this post Link to post
Sherlock 687 Posted 4 hours ago 20 minutes ago, Dalija Prasnikar said: Not to mention that there is no upgrade path for existing users with old versions. They need to pay full price. That is a marketing vehicle they choose to ride every other year "Limited offer for a limited time only! Upgrade from any Delphi Version" Share this post Link to post
Brandon Staggs 393 Posted 4 hours ago On 9/13/2025 at 8:50 AM, dummzeuch said: Some even from past me. I think "past me" is my least favorite developer to work with. 1 4 Share this post Link to post
Brandon Staggs 393 Posted 4 hours ago 7 hours ago, Vincent Parrett said: The only place where Delphi wins out (ignoring the price) is for Desktop Windows applications. For everything else, there are better options. I wish it were not the case, but it's too far behind now to ever be able to compete in many spaces (like web, mobile etc). Once again, it seems that Delphi's strength is the fact that there are legacy applications locked into it. The cost of abandoning millions of lines of code is far greater than continuing with an IDE that appears to be on life support with failing equipment. No refactoring. No code formatting. Yeah, I get that refactoring didn't work well and that lots of people (myself included) did not trust CTRL+D. But this is not a modern IDE. It just isn't. You can't remove basic functionality like refactoring and pretend to be a professional IDE. A couple of weekends ago I set up VS Code to write and debug 6502 assembly on an attached emulator. It was astonishingly smooth. It was fun to use. Everything just works. If it wasn't for the difficulty of dealing with hundreds of visual forms I would be looking into getting a Delphi build environment working in VS Code. 1 Share this post Link to post