Moving from W10 -> W11

[Mark- 31]

Hello,

 

Using Delphi 10.2.3

 

Any advice?

Anyone that made the switch then reverted to W10?

 

Thanks,

 

Mark

 

Edited March 5 by Mark-

[Dave Nottage 599]

1 hour ago, Mark- said:

Any advice?

10.2.3 worked (when I was using it) in Windows 11.

 

No advice other than that 🙂

 

[Mark- 31]

22 minutes ago, Dave Nottage said:

10.2.3 worked (when I was using it) in Windows 11.

 

No advice other than that 🙂

 

Thank you.

[aehimself 402]

Long story short - if you don't have to, don't. I am forced to use it at work and the only positive thing I can say about it is even XE7 runs on it without issues.

[Mark- 31]

2 hours ago, aehimself said:

Long story short - if you don't have to, don't. I am forced to use it at work and the only positive thing I can say about it is even XE7 runs on it without issues.

Thanks.

I am putting it off for now. I have W11 running in a VM and have been looking at it. Trying to make it like W10. 😀

[David Heffernan 2404]

Definitely Windows 11 is better than Windows 10. Just nice incremental improvements. Every single time there's a new release of Windows people complain that it's worse. But who honestly wants to go back to 98 or XP? 

[aehimself 402]

Windows 11 moved further away from privacy, prefers "innovation" noone asked for over functionality and requires way too much hardware just to sit on the desktop, doing nothing.

 

I'm eyeing Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC. Price is not that high and you get a fully functional and debloated WIndows 10, supported until 2035.

Until then I hope a Delphi IDE will be released for Linux :)

[dummzeuch 1594]

2 hours ago, David Heffernan said:

Definitely Windows 11 is better than Windows 10. Just nice incremental improvements. Every single time there's a new release of Windows people complain that it's worse. But who honestly wants to go back to 98 or XP? 

I'll take XP back any time. From a user perspective, many of the real improvements of later Windows versions were available as add on tools for XP already. Other so called "improvements"  are in fact not improvements at all.

 

There is one notable exception: It's definitely an improvement that nowadays Windows pretty much means 64 bits and 8 Gig of RAM. There was a 64 bit version of XP too, but it wasn't widely used.

 

As for Windows 98: I skipped that altogether, I went from Windows 3.1 (detouring over OS/2 2, 3 and 4 and even Linux for a short time) to Windows NT 4 and then XP. So Windows 95, 98 and ME just are names for me.

 

But hey, I've only got another 8 years to retirement, so chances are that Windows 11 will be the last Windows version I have to suffer through. If I retire earlier, that would mean less years of using Windows as an added bonus. Or maybe I'll even switch careers from software development (in Delphi) to IT infrastructure, which is an important part of my current job anyway. But so far software development still is the part that's more fun.

[Mark- 31]

3 hours ago, David Heffernan said:

Definitely Windows 11 is better than Windows 10. Just nice incremental improvements.

Why is W11 better than W10?

[David Heffernan 2404]

2 hours ago, Mark- said:

Why is W11 better than W10?

Small things, minor improvements, better integration, built in vpn that works, but it all adds up. I find it a cleaner experience. 

[David Heffernan 2404]

2 hours ago, dummzeuch said:

I'll take XP back any time

I bet you'd regret it if you did. 

[aehimself 402]

In theory, you can use XP... I'd love to give it a spin and see if the latest Delphi runs fine or not :)

 

 

[Dalija Prasnikar 1481]

5 hours ago, David Heffernan said:

But who honestly wants to go back to 98 or XP? 

I would go back to Vista or Win 7 in blink of an eye.  I would be thrilled if I could have stayed on Win 10, too. 

 

Windows 11 is by far the worst Windows version ever (and I could not believe this was possible after Windows 8). There are zero new features I want to have and they messed up everything else. 

 

For start half of the things no longer cannot be configured. Taskbar height is too big, colors and icons are awful, Windows theme even worse (selection colors, checkboxes, and similar), you need ten clicks more to do things, fonts are total nightmare and cannot be uninstalled. Whoever designed that Cascadia Mono font needs to be tarred and feathered. It is absolutely illegible and half of the websites are using is as the default monospace font.

 

And this is just scratching the surface...

[Angus Robertson 625]

My major annoyance with Windows 11 is they keep changing File Explorer, rarely for the better.  Specifically there is a new right click menu with the default options, but you have to click again on Show More Options to see the historic menu we've had for 25 years with addon like TortoiseGit, TortoiseSVN, 7Zip, etc.  

 

Somehow WinRAR seems to be on both menus, so maybe there is a new API other developers have not found yet to get onto the first right click menu. 

 

Angus

 

[David Heffernan 2404]

51 minutes ago, Angus Robertson said:

Specifically there is a new right click menu with the default options, but you have to click again on Show More Options to see the historic menu we've had for 25 years with addon like TortoiseGit, TortoiseSVN, 7Zip, etc.  

This is fair, I use shift right click to get the full context menu, but it would be better if they allowed you to choose which you wanted

[Dalija Prasnikar 1481]

52 minutes ago, Angus Robertson said:

My major annoyance with Windows 11 is they keep changing File Explorer, rarely for the better.  Specifically there is a new right click menu with the default options, but you have to click again on Show More Options to see the historic menu we've had for 25 years with addon like TortoiseGit, TortoiseSVN, 7Zip, etc.  

You can fix that to show old menu options. Works fine. See https://superuser.com/q/1674122/464320 

[dummzeuch 1594]

2 hours ago, David Heffernan said:

I bet you'd regret it if you did. 

We had Windows XP on some of our measurement vehicles until not too long ago. Working on these wasn't too bad really. I missed that I could not install some of the utilities I was used to back in the day. The main problem with using Windows XP nowadays would be that most of the current hard- and software no longer supports it.

[Angus Robertson 625]

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You can fix that to show old menu options. Works fine. See https://superuser.com/q/1674122/464320  

Thanks, a registry patch fixed it, added to my long list of other patches and tools used to make Windows behave as I'm used to.

 

I normally use Ultra Explorer, an old Delphi app from Mustangpeak that was open sourced, and built with D2007, keep meaning to update to modern compilers, but it uses dozens of components that need removing or replacing. 

 

Angus