Regression - Delphi 12 - Unable to debug dynamically loaded packages

[@AT 1]

I'm facing regression in Delphi 12 which blocks me in debugging EMS Server packages.  Debugger does not stop at any breakpoints in source code; debugger does not display any symbols in CPU Debug View when execution is stopped in the package, 

After short investigation I found that local debuggers (Win32, Win64) do not load debug symbols for dynamically loaded packages via LoadPackage function.

Issue is reproduced with Delphi 12 SP1 and is not reproduced in Delphi 11.3. 

 

 

Edited March 3, 2024 by @AT

[Stepan Drzka 0]

Hi, We encountered something similar with statically linked packages. In 11.3 it is working. Have you reported it to the Embarcadero yet? (I know that the Quality Portal is read-only these days).

[Marco Cantu 82]

We have received reports for this issue already. We don't have a ETA for the solution, but have been looking into it

[himitsu 3]

Unfortunately still no solution.

 

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do not load debug symbols for dynamically loaded packages 

That's not quite true, because the log claims that the debug infos are being loaded,

but I also know that the log likes to lie.

 

Because it compiles with external TDS, the *.tds are deleted and yet the debug log claims that the debug infos are being loaded for this EXE/DLL/BPL, which can't be true because they are gone.

First of all, loading such packages with missing *.tds is really extremely slow

and then Delphi itself is too stupid to recognize the problem here, because they create a 1-byte DEBUG section in the actual compilation when the TDS is saved externally, but this "one" byte itself cannot of course contain any debug infos.

[mvanrijnen 127]

Is this fixed in D12.2 ?  

Would nice to know before i spent 2 days updating the dev environment .

 

[Uwe Raabe 2166]

Although there is one issue mentioned in this area (RSS-1044: Debug Delphi 12 IDE for Components design time), that issue lacks public access, so we don't know about the details.

 

A short test here still exposes the problem, but there might be other things involved having influence on it. I would like to hear from others if they could get it working with 12.2.

[mvanrijnen 127]

thats not good, having a problem with a RAD server package, which i would like to debug, gonna be a problem this week.

Maybe the right time to say goodbye to RADserver and transfer the code to MARS (the Rest Server, not the planet)

 

@Marco CantuWhats the status of this problem? 

 

 

Edited September 16, 2024 by mvanrijnen

[Remy Lebeau 1636]

On 3/25/2024 at 12:22 PM, Stepan Drzka said:

I know that the Quality Portal is read-only these days

That is because the old Quality Portal (quality.embarcadero.com) has been replaced with a new system (qp.embarcadero.com).

Edited September 16, 2024 by Remy Lebeau

[mvanrijnen 127]

On 3/26/2024 at 9:52 AM, Marco Cantu said:

We have received reports for this issue already. We don't have a ETA for the solution, but have been looking into it

So, here we are more than a year later, any news on this issue? 

 

[Vandrovnik 224]

On 7/14/2025 at 1:53 PM, mvanrijnen said:

So, here we are more than a year later, any news on this issue? 

 

[Anders Melander 2050]

They are probably too busy Getting Real Help For Free With Code Reviews, Pull Requests, And Git Commits. 🤡

[mvanrijnen 127]

Does someone ( @Marco Cantu) knows if this is solved in 12.3.x? 

We are sure gonna leave the whole RadServer concept because of the lack of support/maintenance. 
(probably going the MARS way)

Who releases a software development product which can debug?

(curious the way this went to production/release, Boss! We can not debug the radserver modules, oh, "nobody cares, just ship it,")

 

[Die Holländer 90]

14 hours ago, Anders Melander said:

They are probably too busy Getting Real Help For Free With Code Reviews, Pull Requests, And Git Commits. 🤡

The special guest forgot to mention one important development language on his site..

 

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Ah..

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Edited July 16 by Die Holländer

[mvanrijnen 127]

Most funny thing is that nobody can confirm this is fixed.
Kind of confirmation of what a laugh the Delphi IDE is become ..........................

 

Time to make a list of critical question for the next Summit in Purmerend (Amsterdam for the commercial guys&girls).

 

 

[Kas Ob. 151]

34 minutes ago, mvanrijnen said:

for the commercial guys&girls

I don't know, but this sound like human trafficking.

[mvanrijnen 127]

19 minutes ago, Kas Ob. said:

I don't know, but this sound like human trafficking.

???

 

The summit is held in Purmerend (a place near Amsterdam), but it's called Delphi Summit Amsterdam, 

don't know where you were thinking of, but if it was ment as a joke, it's not a funny joke?

 

[Kas Ob. 151]

1 hour ago, mvanrijnen said:

don't know where you were thinking of, but if it was ment as a joke, it's not a funny joke?

It was a joke of cutting text out of context, and how this anything other than joke, (may be not funny though).

[mvanrijnen 127]

@Marco Cantu

 

I'm glad to say that we did fix the problem ...