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I am happy that  Embarcadero has finally implemented my QP suggestion in Delphi 13:

 

"Provide a Search/Filter box in the FormDesigner's Structure Tool Window"

 

It works reliably well. However, one particular feature would have been the cherry on top of the cream cake: When searching for multiple words separated by space, it should find all items containing these words! For example:

When searching for "bold speed", it should find items like "SpeedButtonBold" and not find "SpeedButtonItalic". (AND operator, not OR operator.)

 

Unfortunately, the SMARTSEARCH concept seems to be a feature still unknown to many Delphi developers. ☹️

 

PLUS another cherry: When searching for a type name word, it should find all items of this type:

 

For example, searching for "TLabel" should find all TLabel items (Label1, Lbl2, L3, ...).

 

Maybe in Delphi 14 or 15?

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13 hours ago, PeterPanettone said:

I am happy that  Embarcadero has finally implemented my QP suggestion in Delphi 13:

 

"Provide a Search/Filter box in the FormDesigner's Structure Tool Window"

 

It works reliably well. However, one particular feature would have been the cherry on top of the cream cake: When searching for multiple words separated by space, it should find all items containing these words! For example:

When searching for "bold speed", it should find items like "SpeedButtonBold" and not find "SpeedButtonItalic". (AND operator, not OR operator.)

 

Unfortunately, SMARTSEARCH seems to be a feature still unknown to many Delphi developers.

 

PLUS another cherry: When searching for a type name word, it should find all items of this type:

 

For example, searching for "TLabel" should find all TLabel items (Label1, Lbl2, L3, ...).

 

Maybe in Delphi 14 or 15?

Hi @PeterPanettone

 

Good idea for the type search, perhaps you can open a new feature request ?

 

For the search by word they used the same behavior as "find" option in source editor. Suggesting more options could be a good thing too.

 

We don't have to wait for next major release, it could be done for an update.

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1 hour ago, Patrick PREMARTIN said:

Hi @PeterPanettone

 

Good idea for the type search, perhaps you can open a new feature request ?

 

For the search by word they used the same behavior as "find" option in source editor. Suggesting more options could be a good thing too.

 

We don't have to wait for next major release, it could be done for an update.

Hi Patrick PREMARTIN,

 

SMARTSEARCH (a key concept in Data Science) should also be used in the PALETTE search box: "combo DB" should find TDBComboBox and TDBLookupComboBox!

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Does anyone know if madExcept is going to be updated to support this new Delphi version? Latest news on the madshi website is from 2023 and their forums are dead 😞

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I just installed Delphi 13....


Delphi 12.3 is installed here:
C:\Program Files (x86)\Embarcadero\Studio\23.0\bin

Delphi 13 is installed here:
C:\Program Files (x86)\Embarcadero\Studio\37.0\bin

Am I missing something?

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Am I missing something?

 

You are missing the information from the webinar all the numbers are raised to 370 / 37.0.  https://docwiki.embarcadero.com/RADStudio/Florence/en/Compiler_Versions

 

 

Delphi conditional VER<nnn> Product Product Version Package Version CompilerVersion
VER370 Delphi 13.0 Florence / C++Builder 13.0 Florence 37.0 370 37.0
VER360 Delphi 12.0 Athens / C++Builder 12.0 Athens 23.0 290 36.0
VER350 Delphi 11.0 Alexandria / C++Builder 11.0 Alexandria 22.0 280 35.0
VER340 Delphi 10.4 Sydney / C++Builder 10.4 Sydney 21.0 270 34.0

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Technically, this does not explain the striking jump in the folder name's version number from 23 to 37. Perhaps they wanted to avoid any connection to the unlucky number 13?

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1 minute ago, PeterPanettone said:

Technically, this does not explain the striking jump in the folder name's version number from 23 to 37. Perhaps they wanted to avoid any connection to the unlucky number 13?

I'm happy to see that these numbers are now aligned. Make much sense.

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6 hours ago, Oboba said:

Does anyone know if madExcept is going to be updated to support this new Delphi version? Latest news on the madshi website is from 2023 and their forums are dead 😞

Perhaps you can ask them directly ? (an email is available on the about page of their site)

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1 minute ago, Patrick PREMARTIN said:

Perhaps you can ask them directly ? (an email is available on the about page of their site)

Will do it after one week or so, previously it took about a week after new Delphi is released to have madExcept updated. Except that now the project seems to be not as alive as it used to be.

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1 minute ago, Oboba said:

Will do it after one week or so, previously it took about a week after new Delphi is released to have madExcept updated. Except that now the project seems to be not as alive as it used to be.

Yep, like for too many websites, it sounds "COVID era". 😞

Hope it's not the case.

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48 minutes ago, PeterPanettone said:

Technically, this does not explain the striking jump in the folder name's version number from 23 to 37. Perhaps they wanted to avoid any connection to the unlucky number 13?

That's a joke right? They gave the version the number 13 and you suppose they jump in the BDS version from 23 to 37 in order to avoid 13?

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Looking at the 32-bit edition, PackIt does not have a lot of items any more, e.g. Bookmarks previously by Parnassus.

 

What am I missing?

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7 hours ago, Clément said:

Am I missing something?

4 hours ago, PeterPanettone said:

Technically, this does not explain the striking jump in the folder name's version number from 23 to 37.

This is explained in the DocWiki documentation:

https://docwiki.embarcadero.com/RADStudio/Florence/en/What's_New#Unified_internal_version_numbers_to_37

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6 hours ago, dummzeuch said:

They gave the version the number 13 and you suppose they jump in the BDS version from 23 to 37 in order to avoid 13?

Indeed, 24 would have been expected, bat wasn't 24 some sort of secret Illuminati number? And 24 + 13 = 37 😲

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