Delphi 12.3 is available

[Perpeto 5]

51 minutes ago, Patrick PREMARTIN said:

Do you have a RSP or RSS issue to look at ?

https://embt.atlassian.net/servicedesk/customer/portal/1/RSS-526

 

It's this one I guess.... that's a bummer, that this hasnt been fixed yet...

[Patrick PREMARTIN 111]

1 hour ago, Perpeto said:

https://embt.atlassian.net/servicedesk/customer/portal/1/RSS-526

 

It's this one I guess.... that's a bummer, that this hasnt been fixed yet...

thanks

[pyscripter 730]

Four of my reported issues were fixed in 12.3:

1. TStackPanel spacing property is not DPI scaled - RAD Studio Service - Jira Service Management
2. Unnecessary painting of styled scrollbars on mouse move - RAD Studio Service - Jira Service Management
3. Memory leak when you use Vcl.IMouse - RAD Studio Service - Jira Service Management
4. The Panning Window is not DPI scaled - RAD Studio Service - Jira Service Management

Four are still open.

[David Heffernan 2399]

On 3/13/2025 at 3:56 PM, Brandon Staggs said:

To be fair, they are being very straightforward about it being a "version 1" release and it isn't even enabled by default.

 

Well sure. But isn't this pretty lame? Who does version 1 releases that don't work? They might be upfront about all of its deficiencies, but good developers produce software that works. 

 

We've all used VS and VSCode and PyCharm and so on, and they work and shine. And then 12 months passes, it's 2025, and Emba come out with 5000 bug fixes and a 64 bit IDE that doesn't work. 

Edited 19 hours ago by David Heffernan

[Anders Melander 1938]

Just now, David Heffernan said:

Well sure. But isn't this pretty lame? Who does version 1 releases that don't work? They might be upfront about all of its deficiencies, but good developers produce software that works.

I wouldn't mind if they just released it as a technology preview (which is what it is) - on the side.

 

But then what is this release exactly? Sure there are a bunch of bug fixes but have we been paying maintenance all this time to just get a major release (and this is a major release regardless of their silly numbering scheme game) with nothing but fixes for bugs that we already worked around long ago?

 

Will we have to wait another year for something substantial? Two years? Maybe the roadmap can tell us - oh, wait; There's no roadmap, because stupid excuses that nobody ever believed anyway.

I asked my manager today if we shouldn't just cancel our Delphi maintenance and gamble on nothing of substance being released the next 3 years (which is the break-even point). The last time we did this (XE3-XE8) we saved a bunch and didn't miss a thing.

[David Heffernan 2399]

I went from XE7 to 11.something and only upgraded to get high DPI support which was worth it. Not sure what would get me excited from here. 

 

Probably would be copilot like goodness in the IDE. 

[Mark NZ 6]

14 hours ago, John R. said:

I was considering using VSCode too and was wondering if you could tell more about the extensions that you use and your workflow ?

I've just created a new post with info that may be of interest, and hopefully others can add to it
https://en.delphipraxis.net/topic/13177-vscode-for-a-delphi-ide/

[dummzeuch 1580]

10 hours ago, David Heffernan said:

Well sure. But isn't this pretty lame? Who does version 1 releases that don't work?

They don't call it "Version 1", they call it "Preview"^D^D^D^D^D^D ... no, they don't that was apparently during the beta phase. Now it's "64-bit initial release" which sounds more like it should be usable. Since I haven't used it at all so far, I can't comment on whether it is.

Edited 9 hours ago by dummzeuch

[Erix A. 10]

Is Delphi Code formatter gone for good in 12.3 or is it just me? Ctrl+D isn't working anymore and I can't find the formatter options for Delphi (I only see the HTML formatter options).

[Patrick PREMARTIN 111]

42 minutes ago, Erix A. said:

Is Delphi Code formatter gone for good in 12.3 or is it just me? Ctrl+D isn't working anymore and I can't find the formatter options for Delphi (I only see the HTML formatter options).

Check the installer ("Tools / Manage features" in the IDE). The code formatter and other .Net dependencies are in the "modeling" option.

Edited 7 hours ago by Patrick PREMARTIN

[Erix A. 10]

3 minutes ago, Patrick PREMARTIN said:

Check the installer ("Options / Manage features" in the IDE). The code formatter and other .Net dependencies are in the "modeling" option.

I have "Modeling" installed and still no formatter 😞

[Patrick PREMARTIN 111]

28 minutes ago, Erix A. said:

I have "Modeling" installed and still no formatter 😞

Strange. Are you in a Professional or Enterprise edition ?

 

You only have "html" part under "language" option ?

Do you have the refactoring options in contextual menu in the code editor ?

 

 

Can you uninstall the modeling option and reinstall it ?

[Erix A. 10]

Huh, I did a full uninstall (cleaning registry) and re-install and now it's there. Thanks for the tip about the Modeling. I un-checked it when I did the initial install.

[Patrick PREMARTIN 111]

34 minutes ago, Erix A. said:

Huh, I did a full uninstall (cleaning registry) and re-install and now it's there. Thanks for the tip about the Modeling. I un-checked it when I did the initial install.

When you opened the Tools / Manage Feature dialog (before reinstalling) it was checked but you unchecked it when you installed ? 

[Erix A. 10]

Just now, Patrick PREMARTIN said:

When you opened the Tools / Manage Feature dialog (before reinstalling) it was checked but you unchecked it when you installed ? 

It was checked before the full uninstall.  I tried to un-check it (to uninstall) and enabled to install but it didn't work.

[Patrick PREMARTIN 111]

Just now, Erix A. said:

It was checked before the full uninstall.  I tried to un-check it (to uninstall) and enabled to install but it didn't work.

Thanks, I open an issue about the installer. It should not check by default something not installed and of course must allow to install it.

[Kryvich 170]

16 hours ago, David Heffernan said:

I went from XE7 to 11.something and only upgraded to get high DPI support which was worth it. Not sure what would get me excited from here. 

 

Probably would be copilot like goodness in the IDE. 

Multiline strings '''...''' were a very nice addition to the language. Still waiting for constructions like

• case string1 of 'aaa':...
• DoubleValue := Variant1 if not VarIsNull(Variant1) else 0.0;

 

[DJof SD 13]

I've had nothing but problems.

 

It started with not being able to use the Windows Control Panel to uninstall RAD Studio 12.2. It would hang after it was doing something with GetIt. I ended up using the original installation media (DL DVD) to attempt to reinstall RS and when it discovered an existing installation was there, responding yes to remove it -- that did the trick.

 

Installing 12.3 using Web Install failed.

 

Using an ISO was successful and the product was functional. But when I used the Migration Tool to import the settings from 12.2, when starting the IDE, it would complain about a missing DLL for things Parnassus then die. Rinse and repeat the Control Panel unable to remove 12.3 and then using the DVD to redo an installation and have it perform the uninstall.

 

Right now, I have a usable 12.3 but no add ons, nothing has been done using GetIt.

 

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