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  On 3/13/2025 at 3:56 PM, Brandon Staggs said:

To be fair, they are being very straightforward about it being a "version 1" release and it isn't even enabled by default.

 

Well sure. But isn't this pretty lame? Who does version 1 releases that don't work? They might be upfront about all of its deficiencies, but good developers produce software that works. 

 

We've all used VS and VSCode and PyCharm and so on, and they work and shine. And then 12 months passes, it's 2025, and Emba come out with 5000 bug fixes and a 64 bit IDE that doesn't work. 

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  17 hours ago, David Heffernan said:

Well sure. But isn't this pretty lame? Who does version 1 releases that don't work? They might be upfront about all of its deficiencies, but good developers produce software that works.

I wouldn't mind if they just released it as a technology preview (which is what it is) - on the side.

 

But then what is this release exactly? Sure there are a bunch of bug fixes but have we been paying maintenance all this time to just get a major release (and this is a major release regardless of their silly numbering scheme game) with nothing but fixes for bugs that we already worked around long ago?

 

Will we have to wait another year for something substantial? Two years? Maybe the roadmap can tell us - oh, wait; There's no roadmap, because stupid excuses that nobody ever believed anyway.

I asked my manager today if we shouldn't just cancel our Delphi maintenance and gamble on nothing of substance being released the next 3 years (which is the break-even point). The last time we did this (XE3-XE8) we saved a bunch and didn't miss a thing.

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I went from XE7 to 11.something and only upgraded to get high DPI support which was worth it. Not sure what would get me excited from here. 

 

Probably would be copilot like goodness in the IDE. 

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  17 hours ago, David Heffernan said:

Well sure. But isn't this pretty lame? Who does version 1 releases that don't work?

They don't call it "Version 1", they call it "Preview"^D^D^D^D^D^D ... no, they don't that was apparently during the beta phase. Now it's "64-bit initial release" which sounds more like it should be usable. Since I haven't used it at all so far, I can't comment on whether it is.

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Is Delphi Code formatter gone for good in 12.3 or is it just me? Ctrl+D isn't working anymore and I can't find the formatter options for Delphi (I only see the HTML formatter options).

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  5 hours ago, Erix A. said:

Is Delphi Code formatter gone for good in 12.3 or is it just me? Ctrl+D isn't working anymore and I can't find the formatter options for Delphi (I only see the HTML formatter options).

Check the installer ("Tools / Manage features" in the IDE). The code formatter and other .Net dependencies are in the "modeling" option.

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  5 hours ago, Patrick PREMARTIN said:

Check the installer ("Options / Manage features" in the IDE). The code formatter and other .Net dependencies are in the "modeling" option.

I have "Modeling" installed and still no formatter 😞

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  5 hours ago, Erix A. said:

I have "Modeling" installed and still no formatter 😞

Strange. Are you in a Professional or Enterprise edition ?

 

You only have "html" part under "language" option ?

Do you have the refactoring options in contextual menu in the code editor ?

 

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Can you uninstall the modeling option and reinstall it ?

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Huh, I did a full uninstall (cleaning registry) and re-install and now it's there. Thanks for the tip about the Modeling. I un-checked it when I did the initial install.

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  4 hours ago, Erix A. said:

Huh, I did a full uninstall (cleaning registry) and re-install and now it's there. Thanks for the tip about the Modeling. I un-checked it when I did the initial install.

When you opened the Tools / Manage Feature dialog (before reinstalling) it was checked but you unchecked it when you installed ? 

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  3 hours ago, Patrick PREMARTIN said:

When you opened the Tools / Manage Feature dialog (before reinstalling) it was checked but you unchecked it when you installed ? 

It was checked before the full uninstall.  I tried to un-check it (to uninstall) and enabled to install but it didn't work.

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  3 hours ago, Erix A. said:

It was checked before the full uninstall.  I tried to un-check it (to uninstall) and enabled to install but it didn't work.

Thanks, I open an issue about the installer. It should not check by default something not installed and of course must allow to install it.

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