Delphi and the new Apple M1 CPU

[Hans♫ 55]

It works with Delphi 🙂

Just received the Mac Mini with the new Apple M1 CPU. After a quick attempt to deploy our FMX app, I can confirm that PAServer runs and I can deploy and run our FMX app without problems.

"Rosetta 2" seems to do the job very well!

[Rollo62 192]

How is that possible ?

I thought PAServer is a Macos binary, on x86, not a Java thingy ?

At least I can see dylib's in the package content.

Or do you found a new, ARM compatible PAServer somewhere ?

I don't think Apple is emulating x86 assembler code on M1, or do they ?
 

Edited November 20 by Rollo62

[Markus Kinzler 152]

They do. Only a small fraction of apps already got a arm version.

[Rollo62 192]

4 minutes ago, Markus Kinzler said:

They do. Only a small fraction of apps already got a arm version.

Damn, I missed that fact.

Apple is really the hottest sh... 

 

Does that mean also VmWare Fusion, Win-10 guest and Rx1041 is running as before ?

(No, I cannot believe that, its too much utopia for my,  Apple runs out of the box ....)

[Rollo62 192]

Beside that, what are the latest news about the ARM, Softbank, Apple, Nvidia theatre ?

I think this will affect us all, if ARM is in the wrong hands.

Then I have to move back to good old Z80

[Dave Novo 12]

The arm M1 has an emulator

https://www.computerworld.com/article/3597949/everything-you-need-to-know-about-rosetta-2-on-apple-silicon-macs.html

 

[Lars Fosdal 696]

Windows VMs on the M1 ARM seems to a no-go - but that is no surprise.

But - it is a very impressive CPU - Twice the power, and twice the battery time.

[Sherlock 411]

35 minutes ago, Lars Fosdal said:

Windows VMs on the M1 ARM seems to a no-go - but that is no surprise.

But - it is a very impressive CPU - Twice the power, and twice the battery time.

At four times the price 🤣😂🤣

[Lars Fosdal 696]

I thought the Mac Mini price stayed the same? (Price in NOK)

[Wil van Antwerpen 7]

On 11/20/2020 at 2:59 PM, Rollo62 said:

Does that mean also VmWare Fusion, Win-10 guest and Rx1041 is running as before ?

VMware is working on a VMware Fusion version for the M1 processor.
This is not currently available, so no it does not currently work, estimated arrival somewhere 2021.

That first M1 version will -for sure- not offer x86/x64 processor emulation. That is a whole different ballgame and rosetta is not available for virtual machines.
As such you will only be able to run virtual machines that depend on an Arm processor to run.

Having said that, VMware did get an overwhelming demand to also look into processor emulation and they are actively looking into this.
That's about the only thing that the responsible VMware product manager is willing to say about this at the moment.

Edited Sunday at 03:16 PM by Wil van Antwerpen

[Anders Melander 536]

On 11/20/2020 at 5:29 PM, Sherlock said:

At four times the price

I think Apples revenue speaks for itself. Even though they make some really nice hardware it's obviously overpriced.

[Rollo62 192]

Well, unexpectedly Apple-M1 did not so bad in emulation.

I haven't found many reports on compatibility issues yet, so maybe someone knows more about
the Do's and Dont's with this emulator: what can be used, what will crash ?

I think no Hypervisor, OK, but what restrictions have normal apps ?

 

 

Edited Monday at 08:33 AM by Rollo62