The Delphi 11.2 release thread

[Dave Nottage 557]

23 minutes ago, Rollo62 said:

I would never trust such information, no matter how deeply this was tested

Given my experience, I would trust it. The times where there has been a binary compatibility issue between updates has been very rare, and rectified soon after, if it happened at all.

[Rollo62 536]

4 hours ago, Dave Nottage said:

Given my experience, I would trust it. The times where there has been a binary compatibility issue between updates has been very rare, and rectified soon after, if it happened at all.

Yes, thats problably true ..... until the day when its NOT

Why gambling russian roulette, just to save a few minutes time ?

 

Anyway, everybody has to make his own decision about this, probably in some cases ra build needs not minutes but days, then I could understand this decision.

Usually I'm starting first tests also with maybe only 80-90% of libraries rebuild, but then the goal is to re-build the rest ASAP in the next days.

Edited September 8, 2022 by Rollo62

[Dave Nottage 557]

19 minutes ago, Rollo62 said:

Yes, thats problably true ..... until the day when its NOT

Why gambling russian roulette, just to safe a few minutes time ?

Well, I guess you could decide not to cross the street in case the Wonder Of The Seas passes through

[Sherlock 663]

According to the installation notes Delphi 11.2 can only run on Windows 10....nicely done.

 

 

[Rollo62 536]

22 minutes ago, Dave Nottage said:

Well, I guess you could decide not to cross the street in case the Wonder Of The Seas passes through

Yes I do, I'm already standing there with all the animals around, waiting for the flood to rise.

[Lars Fosdal 1791]

2 hours ago, Sherlock said:

can only run on Windows 10....

... or later, I would assume - but yes - Windows 7/8 is out of scope - as is 32-bit host OSs.

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Note: 32-bit versions of Windows are no longer supported as an operating system for installing RAD Studio 10.4 and above.

 

[Uwe Raabe 2057]

2 hours ago, Sherlock said:

According to the installation notes Delphi 11.2 can only run on Windows 10....

 

To be fair, the notes mention 11.1:

Quote

You can run RAD Studio 11.1 Alexandria on the following versions of Windows:

• Windows 10

 

[Epo 1]

Hi,

I have Installed without problems 11.2 using the migration tool after (except for GetIt package). But each time the IDE start, before the welcome screen is displayed, an error is raised:

Cannot add columns or rows while expand style is fixed size. If the button OK is pushed, the IDE is launched correctly.

Probably an old param from the previous install.  Someone have an idea how to suppress it ?

When it is closing, an another error : ??

 

Thanks,

Eddy

 

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[Dalija Prasnikar 1396]

55 minutes ago, Epo said:

Hi,

I have Installed without problems 11.2 using the migration tool after (except for GetIt package). But each time the IDE start, before the welcome screen is displayed, an error is raised:

Cannot add columns or rows while expand style is fixed size. If the button OK is pushed, the IDE is launched correctly.

 

That is known (reported issue). There is some problem with migrating or applying Welcome screen layout after migration.

 

When you launch IDE click Edit Layout on Welcome Screen. Reset Welcome Screen to default layout and then adjust it again the way you like it.

 

Next time you start IDE it should run normally.

[balabuev 102]

Overall nice release 👍. Cool welcome page. Cool code tooltips. Cool ASM and messages coloring. Cool colored clXxx constants (btw, what is the problem with system colors, like clBtnFace - they all shown black). IDE feels lighter and faster. IDE Options dialog opens almost immediately.

Many small things were really fixed! However, some of them were introduced in recent versions 😉, like double-click issue in the Project Manager view - so, here is a parity.

Some annoing things continue to annoy me, like non-working Copy/Paste shortcuts in Component Palette search field (in case of active VCL designer). Another example is Undo in code editor.

Compatibility of code analisis/manipulation tools (like Code Insight, Class Completion, Refactoring, etc.) with the "new" language features, like inline variables, generics and even for-in loop - remains far from being perfect.

[daharper 0]

Install went well, seems a pretty good release, other than the issue with SynEdit.

Edited September 8, 2022 by daharper

[dwrbudr 8]

9 hours ago, Sherlock said:

According to the installation notes Delphi 11.2 can only run on Windows 10....nicely done.

 

 

Those notes actually mention 11.1, so I'm wondering how I'm able to run 11.1 on Windows 8.1 64bit though....

[Uwe Raabe 2057]

44 minutes ago, dwrbudr said:

so I'm wondering how I'm able to run 11.1 on Windows 8.1 64bit though....

They only say you can run it on Windows 10. They don't say you cannot run it on other systems.

[Mike Torrettinni 198]

23 hours ago, FaFaFooey said:

can anyone comment yet on Code Insight/LSP for Delphi?  specifically is there still that slight half-second delay when pressing ctrl+space to show the Code Insight window?  I know I'm being picky but I'm still on 10.2.3 because that half-second delay is like a small speed bump to my flow.  thanks!

11.2 seems to have less delay than 11.1, almost no delay. Tested on fresh installation and medium sized project.

I moved from 10.2.3 to 11.1 a few months ago and there are noticeable improvements.

 

11.2 IDE seems quite less jittery than 11.1, smoother, less flicker.

[Clément 148]

I'm also happy with 11.2. So far all my projects compiled directly without any trouble. The IDE is stable and the new features are cool.
I will give the debugger a try and get back.

[Tommi Prami 130]

On 9/7/2022 at 9:51 PM, Anders Melander said:

Remember back in the day when a new release made you go Wooo Hooo ?

This release? Meh

To me quite the opposite, just the release we needed. Quality updates should come more frequently IMHO.

 

-Tee-

[Tommi Prami 130]

On 9/8/2022 at 1:44 AM, Vincent Parrett said:

Unfortunately they were implemented using a class helper, which now breaks Turbopack/SynEdit

 

https://github.com/TurboPack/SynEdit/issues/229

Not problem for me, but "interesting" choice to implement those features with helper, they kind of can modify existing classes quite freely if they want 🙂

 

-Tee-

[Ralf Kaiser 2]

What i do not quite understand (applies to former releases too):

 

I am using the ISO to install and would expect that everything is contained in this 6GB but at installation time the setup constantly downloads data.

[pcoenen 1]

I had to update one Library Path: Options > Language > Delphi > Windows x64 because of DCP error when trying to build to Windows 64 bit.

 

From $(BDSCOMMONDIR)\Dcp to $(BDSCOMMONDIR)\Dcp\$(Platform)

 

 

[balabuev 102]

12 hours ago, Mike Torrettinni said:

11.2 seems to have less delay than 11.1, almost no delay.

Checked against 10.4 - same delays. The delay, however depends of scope. In global scope, like trying to type "Color" the delay approximate half-second:

procedure TMainForm.Button6Click(Sender: TObject);
begin
  Co|
end;

In members scope there almost no delay (same as in 10.4):

procedure TMainForm.Button6Click(Sender: TObject);
begin
  Margins.|
end;

 

[Vincent Parrett 750]

3 hours ago, Tommi Prami said:

Not problem for me, but "interesting" choice to implement those features with helper, they kind of can modify existing classes quite freely if they want 🙂

Not so - they used helpers to avoid breaking dcu compatibility between the other 11.x releases - those helper methods will be merged into the classes in the next major release. Without the binary compatibility, third party vendors would find it next to impossible to support the varions .x releases.

[dwrbudr 8]

12 hours ago, Uwe Raabe said:

They only say you can run it on Windows 10. They don't say you cannot run it on other systems.

They say "Operating System Requirements", if it is not a requirement then why bother to write it at all.

[luebbe 26]

Not a good experience for me so far. I had installed 11.1 alongside 10.4.2 without any problems. I always install from ISO with local admin privileges. Getit packages are installed later, normally without admin privileges.

I let the 11.2 installer uninstall the previous version keeping the registry keys. It removes getit packages, finishes installing the core and then crashes with the following error:

 

 

Running the 11.2 installer again yields the same result.

 

Worst of all, when I now start Delphi 10.4.2 it also crashes with almost the same exception:

 

 

So the 11.2 installer managed to destroy two installations in one go.

 

But the parnassus dlls seem to be in place:

 

How can I recover from this situation? Probably there are some registry keys which I should delete and then reinstall again, but which registry keys?

 

 

[luebbe 26]

I deleted the Parnassus registry keys from "SOFTWARE\Embarcadero\BDS\21.0\Experts" and now the 10.4.2 IDE starts again. Getit still thinks the parnassus plugins are installed, but uninstalled them via getit and it seems ok now.

I then let the 11.2 installer delete all 11.x registry keys and it looks like it will now proceed successfully.

 

So it looks like I could solve the problem.

[Uwe Raabe 2057]

That is a severe problem with the Parnassus plugins: They use modules shared between Delphi versions. This has been a source of many problems even before they were handed over to Embarcadero. The integration in GetIt and the need to uninstall all GetIt stuff for an update just raises the visibility.